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Why Is Salix Compelled to Visit a Temple? Why Doesn't He Go?

Discussion in 'Hinduism DIR' started by SalixIncendium, Oct 12, 2019 at 6:04 PM.

  1. SalixIncendium

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    As some of you may know, I tend much more toward jnana yoga than bhakti yoga, but I find the occasional compulsion to visit the Welcome to The Shiva Vishnu Hindu Temple of Greater Cleveland near where I live.

    I have found many excuses to not go, from the one above to offending those who attend temple services and walking in at the wrong time.

    I woke up again this morning with the desire to go, visited the website, looked at the schedule, and again made an excuse to vacate my plan (who wants an old white guy disrupting a puja?)

    I've driven past the temple on at least 4 occasions, pulled into the parking lot once, but left without visiting it each time.

    Perhaps someone might help me to understand my compulsion to visit despite my need to.
     
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    That's funny. I've been there more often than you, and I'm 2000 miles away. We saw so many temples on that trip i can't really recall, but if I remember right there is a Saiva section in the far corner sort of cordoned off from the rest. I think we sat there for quite awhile.
     
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    Any thoughts on how to overcome this trepidation? Or if I even should?
     
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    That one is very Smarta, liberal, by their website, and my visit. Good starting point though, and a really easy temple to visit. We were there in the evening, entrance is clear, shoe room to the right a you enter, then you just go into the main temple, and proceeding in a clockwise direction, make the rounds to all the various shrines, which are located on the outer walls and go all around the place. (Not agamic by design, but suits the needs of every sect as you can just go sit where you're called.

    Two good times to go if you're a shy guy are early morning on weekdays, or late in the evening half an hour before it closes, when there are only a few stragglers. The other option is the Sri Venkateswara temple a bit further out. You will find it more concentrated in vibes as there is one main God presiding only, and the design is agamic. 9main presiding deity is in a special house called a moolasthanam right in the middle, and only priests are allowed in there, so the energy gets more concentrated.

    Personally, I don't think you should go. You should find a mosque or a fundamentalist church that no doubt will suit your needs and beliefs far more closely.
     
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    Interesting. I'm not really inclined to attend any group gatherings save my compulsions above, but I'm curious as to how you came to this conclusion.
     
  6. Vinayaka

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    Sarcasm is one of my fortes. Sorry about that. There is no group gathering at a Hindu temple generally. I think I spoke to one person at that temple, and the conversation was brief. You walk in, you walk around, you leave, and nobody at all notices ... 90% of the time. I often worship here, attend the morning puja, and complete it in total silence, other than the 'talking to God' bits. (Silent mouth, but not so silent mind.)
     
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    No apology needed. My miss entirely.

    This is what I'm concerned about. If you drill down and look at the schedule, it's pretty well formatted.

    http://www.shivavishnutemple.org/calendar/Calendar_October_2019.pdf

    Hence my primary concern.
     
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    That's the priest schedule for what they do for the Gods with regards to puja. The only word to be concerned about is 'bhajan' as somebody has to be there to lead singing, which may be 10 people or 200 people, more likely 10. All the other stuff like abhishekham, archanas, etc, are names of rituals that the priests are doing and to which God. Priests rarely interact with devotees at all, ad that's not their job. Their job is to beseech the Gods. Because they have so many deities, they need to have a detailed schedule so that Hanuman devotees, for example can attend when Hanuman is being worshipped. if they wish.

    Another component to a Hindu temple that might interest you is the quiet corners where meditation is easier than anywhere else in life. But of course, it's not for everyone. There are other paths.

    For the record, I'd be going to the 10 AM Siva Abhishekahm on Monday mornings. Few people because it's a work day, and it's a lingam enshrined there which represents Absolute Reality, about the most non-dual representation one can get. You could well be the only person in attendance, which is always cool. If God does 'something' you know He's talking to you.

    (Pujas always go on with or without people.)
     
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    I felt so awkward the first time I was alone for an abhishekam. Fortunately I knew that the priest was doing it regardless of who was there, or not. But that awkward feeling paled in comparison to just me and two priests singing the aarti song. And I didn’t know it that well then.
     
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    It could be past life karmic impressions or influences. People usually transition to jnana yoga from bhakti yoga which is relatively easier.

    Sharda Devi, consort of Sri Ramakrishna, was once visiting a region in India with dilapidated ruins of an ancient town with structures and temples. There were a couple of foreign tourists visiting and viewing the ruins as well.

    Sharda Devi remarked then to her disciples that the same people who built this town back then were now visiting it as foreign tourists.
     
  11. Vinayaka

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    On pilgrimage, I most certainly felt a sense of deja-vu from a past life or two. There are tons of eastern souls in western bodies.
     
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