Why I criticize Freemasonry

[Estro Felino]

I have nothing against Freemasons per se.

But since Freemasons oath loyalty and absolute fidelity to a Lodge, they cannot become politicians because in so many European countries there is the legislation about conflicting interests.

That is, you cannot serve the state and the Lodge simultaneously. You have to choose either.

 

[Estro Felino]

Too many Freemasons are ashamed of confessing they are one, ..which makes one think, they have so much to hide

 

[Twilight Hue]

It must be a different country. Here in US a lot of politicians are Freemasons.

I'm not one, but I do know it's a secretive religion which probably lends credit to its mystique where all sorts of conspiracies and stuff like that abound.

I tend to think of it is like a social club or fraternal organization like Mooses or Elks.

 

[Estro Felino]

It must be a different country. Here in US a lot of politicians are Freemasons.

I'm not one, but I do know it's a secretive religion which probably lends credit to its mystique where all sorts of conspiracies and stuff like that abound.

I tend to think of it is like a social club or fraternal organization like Mooses or Elks.

One question. A Freemason serve his Lodge's interests first. All other interests come second.
State interests, family interests.
How can they be a good politician?

 

[We Never Know]

It must be a different country. Here in US a lot of politicians are Freemasons.

I'm not one, but I do know it's a secretive religion which probably lends credit to its mystique where all sorts of conspiracies and stuff like that abound.

I tend to think of it is like a social club or fraternal organization like Mooses or Elks.

Freemasonary isn't what it used to be. Anyone can join their facebook page, order rings, shirts, etc.
However a piece of history.... Freemasons are the one that brought force the term "black balled". For when you went to join, they voted you in by a colored ball(usually red) but if any member dropped in a blackball, you were out, hence the term "black balled".

 

[Estro Felino]

Freemasonary isn't what it used to be. Anyone can join their facebook page, order rings, shirts, etc.
However a piece of history.... Freemasons are the one that brought force the term "black balled". For when you went to join, they voted you in by a colored ball(usually red) but if any member dropped in a blackball, you were out, hence the term "black balled".

There are low degrees of Freemasonry which are goliardic stuff

 

[Notanumber]

They used to reckon that many in the British police were Freemasons. It was supposed to be the best way up the greasy pole of promotion.

 

[Estro Felino]

They used to reckon that many in the British police were Freemasons. It was supposed to be the best way up the greasy pole of promotion.

Well..I am talking politics

 

[ChristineM]

I have nothing against Freemasons per se.

But since Freemasons oath loyalty and absolute fidelity to a Lodge, they cannot become politicians because in so many European countries there is the legislation about conflicting interests.

That is, you cannot serve the state and the Lodge simultaneously. You have to choose either.

Methinks british politics is somewhat different,

Two Freemasons’ lodges set up more than 80 years ago [in Westminster] for members of parliament and political journalists are continuing to operate,...​

Two Freemasons' lodges set up at Westminster are continuing to operate

This of course explains much about the road wreck that is british politics

 

[Estro Felino]

Methinks british politics is somewhat different,

Two Freemasons’ lodges set up more than 80 years ago [in Westminster] for members of parliament and political journalists are continuing to operate,...​

Two Freemasons' lodges set up at Westminster are continuing to operate

This of course explains much about the road wreck that is british politics

In Britain there is the loyalty to the crown ( allegedly) ..here in Italy there is the loyalty to the Republic, an abstract spiritual entity that impersonates the Nation.

 

[Notanumber]

Well..I am talking politics

Unfortunately, in the UK the police are heavily influenced by politics.

Here is an example - Victims call for Tom Watson to quit over bogus sex abuse claims before release of damning report

 

[Revoltingest]

Masons shouldn't work for free.

Actual story....
A contractor I know of, MFG, gave a bid to a client (a lawyer).
The client asked for a lower price.
MFG responded...
"This is a business. Not a f****** hobby!"

Btw, "MFG" stands for "****** ******* Greg"
cuz he was given to colorful expletives.

 

[Estro Felino]

@Kooky

Art 18 Constitution, and law 17 / 1982.

Secret lodges are uncostitutional. But even those aboveboard are merely tolerated.