Why God created human beings and he knows not all of them will obey him

[Camatose]

Why God created human beings and he knows not all of them will obey him ?. What if God didn't create human beings ? there would be no heaven no hell so we will not suffer in life or in the eternal life. God planned everything before the existence so he knows what Adam and Eve will do. Anyone here had they ability to explain the whole story. I don't believe in God.

 

[fallingblood]

Why God created human beings and he knows not all of them will obey him ?. What if God didn't create human beings ? there would be no heaven no hell so we will not suffer in life or in the eternal life. God planned everything before the existence so he knows what Adam and Eve will do. Anyone here had they ability to explain the whole story. I don't believe in God.

Why would God want all humans to obey him? And who says that God planned everything before our existence? That is a strawman, and simply doesn't work.

Process theology sees things very differently. It bases it's view on the idea that God created humans in God's form. That being, humans are also created to be creative. In order for humans to be creative, there must be choice, which means that sometimes, humans are going to disobey God.

 

[1137]

Maybe some beliefs about God simply don't make much sense. Hell, maybe God doesn't even want us to blindly obey him, maybe he doesn't even care.

 

[sojourner]

Why God created human beings and he knows not all of them will obey him ?. What if God didn't create human beings ? there would be no heaven no hell so we will not suffer in life or in the eternal life. God planned everything before the existence so he knows what Adam and Eve will do. Anyone here had they ability to explain the whole story. I don't believe in God.

God's looking for a love affair, not blind obedience.

 

[InChrist]

God knew that some humans would choose to love and trust Him.

 

[Camatose]

Why would God want all humans to obey him? And who says that God planned everything before our existence? That is a strawman, and simply doesn't work.

Process theology sees things very differently. It bases it's view on the idea that God created humans in God's form. That being, humans are also created to be creative. In order for humans to be creative, there must be choice, which means that sometimes, humans are going to disobey God.

Why would God want all humans to obey him?

Actually he doesn't want that that's why he created hell to burn them.

And who says that God planned everything before our existence?

Nobody said that, if so then God imperfect.

Process theology sees things very differently. It bases it's view on the idea that God created humans in God's form. That being, humans are also created to be creative. In order for humans to be creative, there must be choice, which means that sometimes, humans are going to disobey God

So God knows everything, but he's pleased to burn you in hell. If he had given you a free will then he's mistaken ! What if a I gave a child my car key and I told him you have the free will to drive or not ! What would he do if he's a curious kid for example I expect everything from him. That's okay, I cannot blame the kid for that I'm the cause behind it even without a direct control or instructions. It would be my fault, I gave him the key and I know it's illegal, but most importantly, he doesn't have the ability to drive a car.

 

[Camatose]

God's looking for a love affair, not blind obedience.

If that's the case, he can put love inside everybody's heart isn't he God ?

 

[1137]

If that's the case, he can put love inside everybody's heart isn't he God ?

What exactly are you trying to say here?

 

[sojourner]

Actually he doesn't want that that's why he created hell to burn them.

Nobody said that, if so then God imperfect.

So God knows everything, but he's pleased to burn you in hell. If he had given you a free will then he's mistaken ! What if a I gave a child my car key and I told him you have the free will to drive or not ! What would he do if he's a curious kid for example I expect everything from him. That's okay, I cannot blame the kid for that I'm the cause behind it even without a direct control or instructions. It would be my fault, I gave him the key and I know it's illegal, but most importantly, he doesn't have the ability to drive a car.

What does hell have to do with this??? Who said anything about hell? Your arguments flow from assumptions that are neither proven nor universally accepted.

 

[Camatose]

What exactly are you trying to say here?

I gave an exmaple for fallingblood, look above.

 

[sojourner]

If that's the case, he can put love inside everybody's heart isn't he God ?

God did place that capacity for love within all humanity. But it's up to us to choose to engage it, for love cannot be forced. if it's forced, it's not love -- it's coercion.

 

[Camatose]

God did place that capacity for love within all humanity. But it's up to us to choose to engage it, for love cannot be forced. if it's forced, it's not love -- it's coercion.

God doesn't have anything better than that ! What do you think God doesn't need creatures to worship him and I mean come on, if God knows everything he absolutely knows there's so many people will disobey him but he's smart enough that's why he created the mankind I guess !!!! WHAT IS THAT ! If god obvious to you somehow they're so many, many people wondering if there's a god. if god exists there would be no confusion and you will not ask yourself if there's a God. I think if his purpose of creating the mankind and the whole world to praise him, to worship him, to love him, to know him, to thank him etc... that would be a natural thing we born with it. Logically wrong.

 

[Breathe]

Why God created human beings and he knows not all of them will obey him ?

Maybe he doesn't care.

What if God didn't create human beings ?

What if?

there would be no heaven no hell so we will not suffer in life or in the eternal life.

No God does not mean no afterlife.

God planned everything before the existence

Only if you believe God is omniscient. Not everyone does.

so he knows what Adam and Eve will do.

Thinking God means Adam and Eve must exist. ...

Anyone here had they ability to explain the whole story.

Well, duh.

I don't believe in God.

We get it. What, do you want a cookie or something? You're not getting my cookies.

 

[sojourner]

God doesn't have anything better than that ! What do you think God doesn't need creatures to worship him and I mean come on, if God knows everything he absolutely knows there's so many people will disobey him but he's smart enough that's why he created the mankind I guess !!!! WHAT IS THAT ! If god obvious to you somehow they're so many, many people wondering if there's a god. if god exists there would be no confusion and you will not ask yourself if there's a God. I think if his purpose of creating the mankind and the whole world to praise him, to worship him, to love him, to know him, to thank him etc... that would be a natural thing we born with it. Logically wrong.

Straw man. God created us in order for relationship (love) to exist. Obedience isn't the issue. Parents love their children -- even when they disobey. And parents make babies, even knowing that there's a chance they will die from disease or injury -- even knowing that the children will experience doubt, heartache, sorrow, suffering, disappointment, pain. Should we simply stop making babies because we know this will happen???

We make babies out of a desire for relationship, and that desire outweighs the negatives, which are established parts of human experience.

God loves even those who disobey God. God saves all humanity.

 

[BSM1]

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quote=Camatose;3376536]Why God created human beings and he knows not all of them will obey him ?. What if God didn't create human beings ? there would be no heaven no hell so we will not suffer in life or in the eternal life. God planned everything before the existence so he knows what Adam and Eve will do. Anyone here had they ability to explain the whole story. I don't believe in God.

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Why would you believe that God even thinks, plans, emotes, etc? Being God, why would She have to?

 

[DawudTalut]

Why God created human beings and he knows not all of them will obey him ?. What if God didn't create human beings ? there would be no heaven no hell so we will not suffer in life or in the eternal life. God planned everything before the existence so he knows what Adam and Eve will do. Anyone here had they ability to explain the whole story. I don't believe in God.

Why God created human beings and he knows not all of them will obey him ?.

Peace be on you.

i-God created human to imbibe His attributes at human level, for worship and get progress.

ii-Because human were given choice, some followed the guidance, others did not. On the Day of Judgement, He will, by virtue of His perfect knowledge, decide the actual reason for their disbelief; arrogance or any excusable shortcoming.


What if God didn't create human beings ? there would be no heaven no hell so we will not suffer in life or in the eternal life.

God is Creator since ever to ever. Human is not His only creation. Human are raised through process of creation and guided evolution. This physical life will end and spiritual life will continue into life-after where Pious will get progress (nearness of God and paradise), and non-pious will be 'hospitalized' (hell) and then will be brought out to climb the ladder of progress.


God planned everything before the existence so he knows what Adam and Eve will do.

Adam did not do mistake on purpose, he just forgot. Then recovered and asked for pardon and continued to flourish....No original sin thing! There were people before Adam (the perfect person to receive spiritual instructions) too.


I don't believe in God.
Yourself and universe are so well made.... Can an encyclopedia get compiled, printed and placed in libraries by itself...There has to be Maker.

Reference: Ahmadiyya Muslims sources and commentaries of Holy Quran @ alislamDOTorg

 

[Camatose]

Maybe he doesn't care.

What if?


No God does not mean no afterlife.


Only if you believe God is omniscient. Not everyone does.


Thinking God means Adam and Eve must exist. ...


Well, duh.


We get it. What, do you want a cookie or something? You're not getting my cookies.

Shut your childish way. If you're a kid playing with your computer this place is not for you>> sorry

 

[Camatose]

Why God created human beings and he knows not all of them will obey him ?.

Peace be on you.

i-God created human to imbibe His attributes at human level.
ii-Because human were given choice, some followed the guidance others did not. On the Day of Judgement, He will, by virtue of His perfect knowledge, decide the actual reason for their disbelief; arrogance or any excusable shortcoming.


What if God didn't create human beings ? there would be no heaven no hell so we will not suffer in life or in the eternal life.

God is Creator since ever to ever. Human is/will not only creation. This life will continue into life-after where Pious will get progresses (paradise) immediately, and non-pious will be 'hospitalized' (hell) and them brought out to climb the ladder of progress.


God planned everything before the existence so he knows what Adam and Eve will do.

Adam did not do mistake on purpose, he just forgot. Then recovered and asked for pardon and continued to flourish....No original sin thing!

Reference: Ahmadiyya Muslims sources and commentaries of Holy Quran @ alislamDOTorg

I'm not impressed by your answers and specifically your Qur'an.

 

[Camatose]

I think all the religions stories we've just made up. And most religious are aggressive.

 

[DawudTalut]

Peace! Then what kind of answers you expected? Religions are for peace...latter corruptions in believers and abuse by politicians present them aggressive.

Quran with notes: https://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/guide.htm?region=E1


Those who do not believe God can find many answers here:
Revelation Rationality Knowledge and Truth (written in UK): https://www.alislam.org/library/books/revelation/index.htm

Good wishes.