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If something happen in our life, or even in other parts of the world, why do so many human beings seek revenge and show anger toward other human beings? Are we not all human beings?
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Do unto others only that which you are willing to have done unto yourself.
To me killing is never an option even in self defenceThis is my thought on the matter, a spin on the golden rule:
To the point that, when a person shows by their actions that they deem an action to be acceptable (take for example, someone trying to kill you), it becomes a sort of unspoken shared acceptance between you and that individual. As in - now, in the relationship you have with that individual, it is a known quantity between you that attacking with intent to kill is acceptable behavior. This can, of course, be cleared up, and the relationship change. However, if time and time again someone is taking action to try and kill me, you had better bet I am at least strongly going to consider taking advantage of this shared acceptance of intended action, and possibly even go after them before they get yet another chance.
If something happen in our life, or even in other parts of the world, why do so many human beings seek revenge and show anger toward other human beings? Are we not all human beings?
If something happen in our life, or even in other parts of the world, why do so many human beings seek revenge and show anger toward other human beings? Are we not all human beings?
To me killing is never an option even in self defence
Ofcourse i would protect my fianceè but not by use of force or voilance. in last case i would cover her body with mine and take a bullet for her if neededUnfortunately most of the rest of the world is not as enlightened as you. There may be a situation where the life of someone you love is in danger and the only way to save that person is to permanently and quickly remove the threat; sometimes circumstances may rule out over convictions.
The UK State will agree with you as there is no capital punishment even for the vilest of multiple murders.To me killing is never an option even in self defence
Unfortunately most of the rest of the world is not as enlightened as you. There may be a situation where the life of someone you love is in danger and the only way to save that person is to permanently and quickly remove the threat; sometimes circumstances may rule out over convictions.
Revenge has to be proportionate to the injustice suffered.Lack of self control, basic instincts are allowed to rule the mind. We were all once there.
Fine for you, if you are willing to sacrifice your life so that a would-be attacker has an easy time of taking you out. But you cannot, in any way, expect that everyone else feel the same way. You simply can't. Consider yours "the high road" all you want. I will never just lay down and die for some fool who can't abide by the golden rule.To me killing is never an option even in self defence
One needs to be able to judge the difficulty faced and take precautionary and proportional measures before the matter gets out of hand.This is my thought on the matter, a spin on the golden rule:
To the point that, when a person shows by their actions that they deem an action to be acceptable (take for example, someone trying to kill you), it becomes a sort of unspoken shared acceptance between you and that individual. As in - now, in the relationship you have with that individual, it is a known quantity between you that attacking with intent to kill is acceptable behavior. This can, of course, be cleared up, and the relationship change. However, if time and time again someone is taking action to try and kill me, you had better bet I am at least strongly going to consider taking advantage of this shared acceptance of intended action, and possibly even go after them before they get yet another chance.
Ofcourse i dont expect others to do the way i do, they have their own opinions and their own view of what is morally right and wrong to do. So i do not judge those who do different then meFine for you, if you are willing to sacrifice your life so that a would-be attacker has an easy time of taking you out. But you cannot, in any way, expect that everyone else feel the same way. You simply can't. Consider yours "the high road" all you want. I will never just lay down and die for some fool who can't abide by the golden rule.
Ofcourse i would protect my fianceè but not by use of force or voilance. in last case i would cover her body with mine and take a bullet for her if needed
Fully agreed. I am 100% on board with trying to make sure it doesn't get to this point. However, the proof is in the pudding, as they say. If you can't shake an attacker, and they just keep coming, it would get to a point where I would deem action in kind warranted.One needs to be able to judge the difficulty faced and take precautionary and proportional measures before the matter gets out of hand.
Yes it does, i think i shoulr rephrase my self.But that still leaves her vulnerable; the next bullet will be hers. Not saying you're wrong, but life sometimes gives us hard choices.
The dharmic thing to do is to just do that which will stave off the danger from the attacker, otherwise you yourself may find that you are in the dock for attacking back disproportionately.Fully agreed. I am 100% on board with trying to make sure it doesn't get to this point. However, the proof is in the pudding, as they say. If you can't shake an attacker, and they just keep coming, it would get to a point where I would deem action in kind warranted.
Revenge has to be proportionate to the injustice suffered.
I'm having a trouble understanding how to ignore the moral implications of preemptive revenge. For example, how far does one go in removing potential threats. Countering a threat with equal or superior threat is one thing. The morality of removing a potential threat by killing someone is not so clear to me. Only because what if the person in question never followed through with the potential then the response does not fit the crime.
I do not think the answer is as simple as just take action immediately. It just seems to me there's something not quite morally right in killing the children of Arabs because they might grow up and strap on a suicide bomb.