(And people wonder why Muslims have left RF.)
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Where did all the Muslims, in RFs, go?!
- Thread starter Shia Islam
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dybmh
דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
OK. It's confirmed. You're wrong dude.
You brought up dawkins in post 253, before I ever mentioned the guy.
Get it?
You made another BS assertion about me, asking about guilt by association in post 253. I was trying to figure out what you were talking about that in post 264 and post 271.
You are absolutely 100% wrong this.
253 ( your post ) resulted in my questions about Dawkins.
You started this whole bizarre thing with Dawkins. I still don't know anything about the person, and I certainly did not bring his name up in this discussion.
Are you ready to acknowledge this? please, you brought up Dawkins, I did not. and I still don;t see how you could get guilt by association from anything I said. Are you thinking of some other RF'er? Or were you just temporarily insane?
dybmh
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What garbage, you need to man up.
dybmh
דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
Please elaborate.
dybmh
דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
Maybe. I'd have to review what is known about him to be sure.
But just curious, do you deny the similarities, or are you just being provocative?
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
I get your point, but I am not sure it is necessary. If you are simply arguing ideas and ideals, that isn't Islamophobic. It is irrationally connecting those who follow Islam to terrorism or violence that becomes the issue. I get the idea of differentiating between the ideals and the people, but honestly, someone who is scared of Muslims irrationally is focusing on their faith--Islam.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
I am scared of other ideals as well. But I understand that the majority of Muslims where I live are about as dangerous or less so than some of the Christian groups, whose ideals can also lead to violence.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
Not sure, but I do know that Evangelical Christians and other conservative Christian groups in America would create a society likely as Draconian as any Muslim country given the chance.
Notanumber
A Free Man
dybmh
דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
So are you actually afraid? Or are you just resentful?
dybmh
דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
I find this very hard to believe.
What are you afraid of? What is it that is going to happen to you? Are you afraid of actual physical harm? What are the odds of you actually being harmed by Muslims? Is it more or less than being injured in an automobile accident?
dybmh
דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
@Notanumber , you have a much higher chance ( 10 times greater ) of being hit by lightning than being harmed by a terrorist.
"Over the last decade, the annual chance of being murdered in a terrorist attack on British soil was about 1 in 11.4 million"
The Chance of Being Murdered or Injured in a Terrorist Attack in the United Kingdom
"Over the last decade, the annual chance of being murdered in a terrorist attack on British soil was about 1 in 11.4 million"
The Chance of Being Murdered or Injured in a Terrorist Attack in the United Kingdom
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Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
Not in secular societies. Neither could Muslims. The problem appears to be when religion--any religion--gets political.
Notanumber
A Free Man
What is it that makes Islam so deserving of a special status?
Is it purely because it calls itself a religion?
If so, are there any other mainstream religions based on similar draconian ideologies?
Is it purely because it calls itself a religion?
If so, are there any other mainstream religions based on similar draconian ideologies?
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Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
What do you mean by "special status"?
Do you not think that Christianity has Draconian ideology and has a history of politicizing these ideals?
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Cooky
Veteran Member
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
An example of Christian terrorism stemming from Draconian ideals: Creators of gay Jesus Netflix special bombed in Christmas Eve terrorist attack: report
Notanumber
A Free Man
Most western leaders seem to embrace the anti western Islamic ideology.
How and when did Islam attain that position?
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Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
I suspect this has always been the case in some form or another since the Crusades. Folks struggle with accepting foreign cultures.
Just came across another case of Christian ideology leaning towards draconian politics:
'"But back in his home district, Mr. Shea also began attracting the attention of law enforcement for his growing embrace of fringe ideologies and conspiracy theories. He networked with local militia groups, talked about plans to create a 51st state called Liberty and distributed to his closest followers a “Biblical Basis for War” document that calls for the “surrender” of those who favor abortion rights, same-sex marriage, “idolatry” and communism. “If they do not yield — kill all males,” it said.'
G.O.P. Lawmaker Had Visions of a Christian Alternative Government
Notanumber
A Free Man
Islam seems to have slipped through the net.