Exactly! So god was persecuted
Just how do you kill God???? Isn't God the most powerful entity in the universe?
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Exactly! So god was persecuted
You are free to believe as you like, but when I study the scriptures related to the Holy Spirit, I see personal qualities and conclude the Holy Spirit is a Person.
“The Bible provides many ways to help us understand that the Holy Spirit is truly a person—that is, He is a personal being, rather than an impersonal thing. First, every pronoun used in reference to the Spirit is “he” not “it.” The original Greek language of the New Testament is explicit in confirming the person of the Holy Spirit. The word for “Spirit” (pneuma) is neuter and would naturally take neuter pronouns to have grammatical agreement. Yet, in many cases, masculine pronouns are found (e.g., John 15:26; 16:13-14). Grammatically, there is no other way to understand the pronouns of the New Testament related to the Holy Spirit—He is referred to as a “He,” as a person.”
Is the Holy Spirit a person? | GotQuestions.org
Infinity is not difficult to understand. Just because something may be infinite does not mean we can't understand it.
You are free to believe as you like, but when I study the scriptures related to the Holy Spirit, I see personal qualities and conclude the Holy Spirit is a Person.
“The Bible provides many ways to help us understand that the Holy Spirit is truly a person—that is, He is a personal being, rather than an impersonal thing. First, every pronoun used in reference to the Spirit is “he” not “it.” The original Greek language of the New Testament is explicit in confirming the person of the Holy Spirit. The word for “Spirit” (pneuma) is neuter and would naturally take neuter pronouns to have grammatical agreement. Yet, in many cases, masculine pronouns are found (e.g., John 15:26; 16:13-14). Grammatically, there is no other way to understand the pronouns of the New Testament related to the Holy Spirit—He is referred to as a “He,” as a person.”
Is the Holy Spirit a person? | GotQuestions.org
Person, in reference to the Holy Spirit does not mean physical or human, btw.Long hair, nice tan, walks on water....a surfer? Cowabunga dude.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. There are a myriad of ideas out there and on this forum about who or what God is. I choose to believe the revelation God has give us about Himself in the Bible.I think that there is no difference between the holy spirit in Jesus and the holy spirits in each of us, except that Jesus's spirit was more powerful, and Jesus believed that he could talk to God so he did.
I think that the human spirit allows everyone to have "some" ESP and special powers that we don't tap into.
I believe that God is made of trillions of spirits, and He puts a spirit into each one of us, that guides us to evil or goodness, then the bad ones get locked into hell, while the good ones rejoin God as part of the trillions of spirits that comprise Him. In other words, I think that the human race is used as a purification system for God.
Some psychics who have spoken to God have described His voice as the sound of many waters. Like many voices, almost all saying the same thing in exactly the same words, with just a few dissenters. With an eternity to discuss matters, with all of the knowledge in the universe, it is natural that the spirits would have discussed every issue and concluded the answers long ago, so naturally all of their conclusions would be worded identically (or they would have semantic quibbles about how things should be worded).
Wasn't the High-Priest an intermediary in the fullest of its sense even as Moses was between God and Israel?
Deut 5:5 while I stood between the Lord and you at that time, to declare to you the word of the Lord. For you were afraid because of the fire, and you did not go up into the mountain.
Ahh so it doesn't make sense to you either! I think the difference between you and I is with me, if it doesn't make sense to me, I assume there must be something wrong with it. But with you, if it doesn't make sense to you, you assume there is something wrong with your understanding
Infinity is not difficult to understand. Just because something may be infinite does not mean we can't understand it.
Yes... but they were intermediaries. Of course, they weren't The Word manifest. In the Christian worldview, they were just a shadow of things to come.No one prayed to or worshiped the High Priest or Moshe.
In my theology Jesus is a Creator Son, our creator. His Father, our grandfather, is Infinite God expressed in the indivisible unity of the Paradise Trinity."The doctrine of the Trinity means that there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons — the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Stated differently, God is one in essence and three in person. These definitions express three crucial truths: (1) The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons, (2) each Person is fully God, (3) there is only one God."
Was jesus god?
Was god jesus?
Was Jesus the spirit which existed before he did or was he a new spirit?
Was god his own son?
Is the spirit god and jesus or are god and jesus the spirit?
I like the analogy of a person called Joe, who is a son to his parents, a husband to his wife and a father to his children. Joe is one person with three different hats, with each hat specialized to the unique needs of three generations.
Joe is respectful of his parent in ways that is different from his wife and children. He is intimate with his wife in ways that are unique to her. While he is firm but fair with his children, which is not how he treats his parents or wife. He will discuss things with them.
In computers, we can have a processor with many cores, with each core being designed to deal with specific tasks. The computer still has just one processor, even while multitasking.
The Trinity is connected to the three main hats used to worship God. In the Old Testament, God was the analogous parent of Joe; Father. In the New Testament, God is the analogous child of Joe; Son. The Holy Spirit is based on faith in the inner voice of truth. This is the most intimate personal connection to God; the analogous wife of Joe. These three roads can all lead to God.
The DNA based operating system of the human brain is grounded on the most basic of common human experience. These basic human observations, are engrained in the psyche over time The Trinity was modeled on the generational biological family of man, that is extrapolated into/from the Divine family of God.
An interesting application is during the holidays when all three generations get together and Joe has to deal with the three generations teaming up against him in fun. For example, Joe's parents and children team up, with Joe unable to discipline his parents, like children, for spoiling his children, who now will not listen since his parents are offering them cover. Or his mother like to push his bottoms, wants to know about his intimacy and asks his wife, with the kids listening; awkward.
Sometimes when the various cores of the trinity act in pairs, the individual and collective can be taken off balance. In the Old Testament there were prophets, but they were usually not taken seriously at the beginning, since they tried to make changes, that were not yet understood. Nobody wished to anger the Father, while not knowing this Holy Spirit also came from God.
Or the Christian; New Testament, who over uses the fire and brimstone of the Old Testament, along with the love of the son. This can create a paradox that is hard to explain to Atheists. Revelations is unique in that all three cores are active, with elements of Old and New Testament and inner spirit. In this case, Joe has had little extra to drink and lets his hair down. He becomes the funny friend to all.
In my theology Jesus is a Creator Son, our creator. His Father, our grandfather, is Infinite God expressed in the indivisible unity of the Paradise Trinity.
Jesus isn't the Trinity son, he cant be. 1/3 of the Trinity cant go off on a human adventure as a separate subordinate. The Trinity functions as (one). Jesus referenced the 3 parts of the Trinity but never used the term. It has been assumed in Christianity that Jesus was the Son or second person of the Trinity.
The Trinity is not really comprehensible by the finite mind of man. It becomes a matter of faith.
I never suggested I understood everything. I'm saying I generally don't go around claiming something is true if it doesn't make sense to meAn interesting observation. You think everything can be understood. Still, you surely don’t think you understand everything?
Don't assume because I remain skeptical of or dare question something that make no sense to me, that I am closing my mind to things I don't understand.Hm. Infinity may not be difficult to understand until you begin thinking about it. The degree of understanding may depend on whether you are considering philosophical, mathematical or cosmological concepts of infinity.
I admit my own understanding is very limited. Still, I have found it best not to close my mind to things I don’t understand.
As the Word, I would say He is the second person of the Trinity (as we try to express it in human terms). As you said, in becomes somewhat incomprehensible by the finite mind of man.
It is interesting that you would mention that 1/3 of the Trinity cannot go off on a human adventure yet one would have no problem with the thought that God can be in all places and all times and hear every prayer that is lifted to Him.
I view it as "With God nothing is impossible".
In my understanding of why He manifested in human form, it is enough for me to believe that He did (though it can be rejected by others)
The word that comes to mind when thinking about infinity is unfathomable. To believe infinity is fathomable, is to suggest that your mind can look outside of infinity, that can somehow escape infinity, in that it can draw a boundary around it. In which case, is that really infinity you're imagining?Infinity is not difficult to understand. Just because something may be infinite does not mean we can't understand it.