I beleive in one God, YHWH who has a Spirit and a Word.
So far I only discussed the Word and the Father.
The Spirit will still be discussed.
No, angels were created before people, but it does not make them God at all.
However, taking your question into perspective you now say.
Jesus existed before the World began, angels also.
Angels are not Gods, therefore jesus is not God.
Well, your error is in this that no angel ever claimed to be God, except for the Theopany of Jesus in the Old Testament.
Angels are known as ancient creations before man.
Yet, Jesus appeared as a Man, and claimed He was in existance since the beginning!
Big difference.
If Jesus were to say, I was born but never existed before that time, it would be a denial of His divinity.
But he said he knew Abraham, he was there with creation, He existed with the Father from before the World began.
This is solid evidence that Jesus claimed to be more than just a man.
Only God can claim this.
Thankyou for this truth.
You dont know what you did to further my clain of Jesus' divinity.
Jou opened something I would never have thought about, and proved JESUS IS GOD!!!
It is an invented doctrine and not from the Bible.
A lot of people had been had.
Used to cling on to it but I had to read it for myself and face the truth.
Trinity
"Father, Son, Holy Ghost"; "Holy Trinity"; and "Trinitarian" redirect here. For the album, see
Father, Son, Holy Ghost (album). For the holy trinity in cooking, see
Holy trinity (cuisine). For other uses, see
Holy Trinity (disambiguation),
Trinitarian (disambiguation), and
Trinity (disambiguation).
Etymology
The word
trinity is derived from
Latin trinitas, meaning "the number three, a triad, tri". This abstract noun is formed from the adjective
trinus (three each, threefold, triple),
[9] as the word
unitas is the abstract noun formed from
unus (one).
The corresponding word in
Greek is
τριάς, meaning "a set of three" or "the number three".
[10] The first recorded use of this Greek word in Christian theology was by
Theophilus of Antioch in about the year 170. He wrote:
[11]
In like manner also the three days which were before the luminaries, are
types of the Trinity [Τριάδος], of God, and
His Word, and
His wisdom. And the fourth is the type of man, who needs light, that so there may be God, the Word, wisdom, man. (
Aut. II.XV)
History
Further information:
Trinitarianism in the Church Fathers
The earliest known depiction of the Trinity,
Dogmatic Sarcophagus, AD 350.
Vatican Museums
The
Adoration of the Trinity by
Albrecht Dürer (1511). From top to bottom: Holy Spirit (dove), God the Father and the crucified Christ.
The "Heavenly Trinity" joined to the "
Earthly Trinity" through the
Incarnation of the
Son, by
Murillo, c. 1677.
[12]
From the Ante-Nicene Fathers to NicaeaEdit
While the developed doctrine of the Trinity is not explicit in the books that constitute the
New Testament, it was first formulated as early Christians attempted to understand the relationship between Jesus and God in their scriptural documents and prior traditions.
[8] The New Testament possesses a "triadic" understanding of God
[6] and contains a number of Trinitarian formulas.
[7] The
Ante-Nicene Fathers asserted Christ's deity and spoke of "Father, Son and Holy Spirit", even though their language is not that of the traditional doctrine as formalized in the fourth century. Trinitarians view these as elements of the codified doctrine. An early Trinitarian formula appears towards the end of the first century, where
Clement of Rome rhetorically asks in his
epistle as to why corruption exists among some in the Christian community; "Do we not have one God, and one Christ, and one gracious Spirit that has been poured out upon us, and one calling in Christ?"
[13] Ignatius of Antioch provides early support for the Trinity around 110, exhorting obedience to "Christ, and to the Father, and to the Spirit".
[14] The pseudonymous
Ascension of Isaiah, written sometime between the end of the first century and the beginning of the third century, possesses a "proto-trinitarian" view, such as in its narrative of how the inhabitants of the sixth heaven sing praises to "the primal Father and his Beloved Christ, and the Holy Spirit".
[15] Justin Martyr (AD 100–c. 165) also writes, "in the name of God, the Father and Lord of the universe, and of our Saviour Jesus Christ, and of the Holy Spirit".
[16] The first of the early church fathers to be recorded using the word "Trinity" was
Theophilus of Antioch writing in the late 2nd century. He defines the Trinity as God, His Word (
Logos) and His Wisdom (
Sophia)
[17] in the context of a discussion of the first three days of creation, following the early Christian practice of identifying the Holy Spirit as the Wisdom of God.
[18] The first defense of the doctrine of the Trinity was in the early 3rd century by the early church father
Tertullian. He explicitly defined the Trinity as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit and defended his theology against "
Praxeas",
[19] though he noted that the majority of the believers in his day found issue with his doctrine.
[20] St. Justin and Clement of Alexandria used the Trinity in their
doxologies and
St. Basil likewise, in the evening lighting of lamps.
[21] Origen of Alexandria (AD 185-c. 253) has often been interpreted as
Subordinationist, but some modern researchers have argued that Origen might have actually been anti-Subordinationist.
[22][23]
Trinity - Wikipedia
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