What is the EU's Customs Union?

[Ultimatum]

A customs union is technically different of the Customs Union. On the one hand, you have the legal WTO definition which states the customs union seeks to abolish internal barriers and set an external tariff to third countries and, on the face of it, you would say the same of the Customs Union. However, the technicality arises when you understand that the Customs Union has extended to beyond the legal definition of a customs union—whereby the WTO definition does not preclude a customs union member from creating separate trade deals (tariffed of course), whilst the EU Customs Union does just this. Due to the interlocking of both the Customs Union and EU external trade policy, the UK is precluded just so. One misconception that is rife amongst the “experts” (and particularly the Financial Times newspaper for some reason) is that the Customs Union abolishes border customs checks within the Customs Union member states. And, if you head down to Germany through France, you would think that, actually, this is the case. And it is!—but it’s not down to the Customs Union, but customs cooperation introduced in the Maastricht Treaty under the pretence of it being a matter of common interest (which I would argue it is). Customs cooperation is not the Customs Union, but works alongside this Customs Union codes (Regulation (EU) No 952/2013) from Regulation (EEC) No 2913/92 (“92” referring to the year which formal drafting began—way after the establishment of the Customs Union in the Treaty of Rome).

We should leave the Customs Union upon Brexit—there is literally no reason to stay inside it since the Single European Act has nothing to do with it.

 

[Kirran]

You reckon Brexit will go through? I'm still unsure myself.

 

[Altfish]

Must say, leaving the EU is going swimmingly well

 

[Kirran]

Must say, leaving the EU is going swimmingly well

HEY! We'll get started any day now!

 

[Flankerl]

So you won the referendum and still whine about the EU?

 

[Kirran]

So you won the referendum and still whine about the EU?

Flankerl, I still think you guys are great (y)

 

[Altfish]

So you won the referendum and still whine about the EU?

I didn't win any referendum

 

[Ultimatum]

You reckon Brexit will go through? I'm still unsure myself.

It will go through. I would bet all three of my houses on this--along with my son

Must say, leaving the EU is going swimmingly well

The public and the media think it is going in a reprehensible manner. But if you actually do some research and not rely on vacuous-tier, 0 information journalism then you will be none the wiser.
Glad to see you're still ignorant.

So you won the referendum and still whine about the EU?

We're not out yet, let's keep whining.

 

[Kirran]

It will go through. I would bet all three of my houses on this--along with my son

It seems plausible to me, but I wouldn't go so far as to bet anything on it! I'm thinking like 55% we're gonna leave.

 

[Flankerl]

We're not out yet, let's keep whining.

Then write or call your politicians. Writing on RF won't change anything and is just really whiny.

 

[Kirran]

If we whine enough, surely somebody here will become a politician and fix things for us.

Is, um, Germexit coming up?

 

[Altfish]

The public and the media think it is going in a reprehensible manner. But if you actually do some research and not rely on vacuous-tier, 0 information journalism then you will be none the wiser.
Glad to see you're still ignorant.

Glad to see that you still have to make personal attacks rather than give any facts.

 

[Ultimatum]

Glad to see that you still have to make personal attacks rather than give any facts.

An ad hominem is only fallacious if it includes no evidence. Eg:

"You're ignorant" is ad hominem

"You're ignorant because x" is no longer ad hominem.

And, since the first post was heavily laden with information beyond anything you could ever possibly muster, it is justified.

 

[Altfish]

An ad hominem is only fallacious if it includes no evidence. Eg:

"You're ignorant" is ad hominem

"You're ignorant because x" is no longer ad hominem.

And, since the first post was heavily laden with information beyond anything you could ever possibly muster, it is justified.

It must be great being so intelligent.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

As a world power the UK is irrelevant.
when it achieves brexit it will be both irrelevant and in terminal decline.
But it will have temporary interest to global asset strippers.
It will bcome a useful haven for countless opportunists.

what the citizens think about this will also be irrelevant.

 

[Kirran]

As a world power the UK is irrelevant.
when it achieves brexit it will be both irrelevant and in terminal decline.
But it will have temporary interest to global asset strippers.
It will bcome a useful haven for countless opportunists.

what the citizens think about this will also be irrelevant.

I think it might stick on a middle power, with some secondary significance in the region. But that's about it, in terms of geopolitical influence.

If Scotland splits off, and maybe even NI reunited with Eire, then even more so.

Much as many of school friends would wish otherwise, I can't see Wales going independent! I was from that kind of area of Wales.

 

[Altfish]

From an @FT comments page. Seems a fair summary.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

So you won the referendum and still whine about the EU?

Those damn Euros, coming over here and using laws written by British lawmakers to stop our unelected Government from destroying what little privacy we have left!!

 

[Ultimatum]

Glad to see that Remainers are still so disastrously flatulent.