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What flavor are you?

Tarheeler

Argumentative Curmudgeon
Premium Member
I'm curious as to what "flavors" of libertarians we have on the site. Are you a left-libertarian or a right-libertarian? Minarchist? Libertarian socialist? Paleolibertarian? Anarcho-syndicalist?



Personally, I'm somewhere near the libertarian-socialist camp.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I am the only flavor, which is just "libertarian", ie, minarchist in both economic & social areas.
(Socialism requires a powerful & intrusive government to impose it upon the unwilling.)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Heh, keep telling yourself that, Rev. :D
I will endlessly tell all within earshot.
Btw, if you're libertarian on social issues, but want socialist economics then you would typically be called (in N America) a "liberal". (I pefer "leftist", but I know it's an uncommon label.)

I also taste of bacon & maple syrup.
 
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dawny0826

Mother Heathen
I'm a libertarian of the national libertarian variety, for the most part.

Health care here of late, I'm in turmoil over. I favor free market of the genuine free market flavor, as in as non-regulated as possible. Not that anyone in their right mind acknowledges a system without government regulation, but, there's a difference between our health care reality and what a genuine free market health care system would look like.

And for some reason if you mention this to people, they go all ape on you and accuse you of not knowing what the heck you're talking about. Whatever.

The individual and employer mandates have really got my pantaloons in a bunch and I don't suppose this is really the place to talk about this, but, I appreciate you lending an ear. Thank you, kindly. I feel better now.
 
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Tarheeler

Argumentative Curmudgeon
Premium Member
I will endlessly tell all within earshot.
Btw, if you're libertarian on social issues, but want socialist economics then you would typically be called (in N America) a "liberal". (I pefer "leftist", but I know it's an uncommon label.)

I also taste of bacon & maple syrup.

No, liberal doesn't quite cut it either. Libertarian-socialist is a perfectly good descriptor, and it works well for anyone who chooses to poke their head into the wider world of political theory than what exists within the US borders. Particularly when you consider that the political term "libertarian" was brought into use to describe a school of anarcho-communism.

But we've had this discussion before.
 

InformedIgnorance

Do you 'know' or believe?
I am a flavour which is wonderful to lick but horrible to bite.

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Oh, and as for my flavour of libertarianism, I am a libertarian on social and geopolitical issues but not economic ones.
 

Tarheeler

Argumentative Curmudgeon
Premium Member
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Oh, and as for my flavour of libertarianism, I am a libertarian on social and geopolitical issues but not economic ones.

Given the wide range of libertarian philosophy in the area of economics, that may not be true.
Contrary to what some Americans put forth, laissez faire capitalism is not a requirement, and many schools of libertarian philosophy posit that it is a form of tyranny that rivals any government.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
No, liberal doesn't quite cut it either. Libertarian-socialist is a perfectly good descriptor, and it works well for anyone who chooses to poke their head into the wider world of political theory than what exists within the US borders. Particularly when you consider that the political term "libertarian" was brought into use to describe a school of anarcho-communism.
But we've had this discussion before.
We're having it again....which you should've expected. Language variations do complicate things.
"Liberal" to Europistanians & early Americastanians will mean something more akin to what our Libertarian Party stands for.
"Anarcho-communism" is an impossibility for countries because communism on that scale requires a powerful government to prevent free economic association (eg, capitalism), which is the antithesis of anarchism. It can exist on a voluntary basis though, eg, communes.

For those of us in N America (Canuckistan & Americastan), the media show a consensus that "liberal" means social liberty & economic restriction, while "libertarian" means liberty for both. Check out everyone from Fox News to MSNBC, & we find that these usages are pretty uniform. Philosophers & poly sci students might think otherwise, but the language is evolving past their arcane definitions.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
No, we aren't. It isn't the topic of this thread, and I have no intention of repeating things that have been discussed with you in the other thread.
I've no desire to derail your thread.
I believe I've properly responded to each of your posts.
(A little extra expounding is the norm here.)
 

dawny0826

Mother Heathen
In saying "national libertarian" are you referring to the Libertarian Party?
I can't recall ever hearing it put in those terms.

That's because I'm a dumb dumb.

I'm a member of The Libertarian Party, of the American national party variety, would have been more accurate.
 

Tarheeler

Argumentative Curmudgeon
Premium Member
That's because I'm a dumb dumb.

I'm a member of The Libertarian Party, of the American national party variety, would have been more accurate.

That's what I figured, but wasn't sure. Thanks for the clarification!
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
I'm a non-corporatist libertarian. I'm also a Lao-Tzu libertarian.

I don't like collectives that try to game the system.
 
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