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What do atheists believe happens when you die?
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betweenangelsandinsects
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Well beleiving in nothing like God and nothing after life that would mean they would not beleive in going anywhere but six feet under. Hell, I am glad I don't think like that or I would have no reason to live.
Betweenangelsandinsects
Betweenangelsandinsects
Mr_Spinkles said:First of all, the thing you have to understand, Irenicas and Druidus, is that I don't believe in things because I *want* them to be true, but because I *think* logically that they are probably true (or I think logically that something is probably not true). I would love it if Santa existed, but I just don't think it's very likely.
I think we humans have been hardwired for survival a little too well....our brains don't seem readily able to even comprehend the concept of death. Humans have come up with all sorts of beliefs about the "afterlife" meant to evade the obvious...when we die, we die. Everything you experience comes directly from your brain, so you can't possibly experience consciousness, memories, dreams, visions, etc. once your brain has stopped functioning.
If you want to know what not being alive is like, just think back to before you were born
There are some who claim memories prior to their birth; babies as yet unborn react to stimuli from their surrounds. They react to moods, to music. Is that 'not being alive?'
The Voice of Reason
Doctor of Thinkology
If this is true, then I hope for your sake that you never have the courage to question your belief system - it would be a shame to perish from this earth because you developed the ability to reason....betweenangelsandinsects said:
TVOR
Faust
Active Member
[QUOTE+TranceAm]The point is not quoting others wisdom...
You can have get a Phd by just repeating without one original idea yourself what others have told you. (That is called getting an education.)
Hell, you can become pope or president that way.
The point is seeing the link yourself...
Oh, yes proof.. As always.
One example:
Don't you think it is remarkable that at different places on Earth, people can imagine and invent the SAME thing out of nowhere... Telephone as one good example.
One got the patent, but several did the invention[/QUOTE]Dear TranceAm,
I did not intend to suggest that your thoughts were not original.
In fact I thought what you had to say was very cool.
I have been a Beatles fan since 1962 and I get a kick out of serendipitous statements that happen to involve statements or lyrics by the beatles, especially John Lennon.
I apologize for the misunderstanding, however if I do disagree with something you say I will debate you using logic and reason to the best of my limited abilities.
Until then, if you have designs on the office of Pope or the presidency, you currently have my full support.
Faust.
You can have get a Phd by just repeating without one original idea yourself what others have told you. (That is called getting an education.)
Hell, you can become pope or president that way.
The point is seeing the link yourself...
Oh, yes proof.. As always.
One example:
Don't you think it is remarkable that at different places on Earth, people can imagine and invent the SAME thing out of nowhere... Telephone as one good example.
One got the patent, but several did the invention[/QUOTE]Dear TranceAm,
I did not intend to suggest that your thoughts were not original.
In fact I thought what you had to say was very cool.
I have been a Beatles fan since 1962 and I get a kick out of serendipitous statements that happen to involve statements or lyrics by the beatles, especially John Lennon.
I apologize for the misunderstanding, however if I do disagree with something you say I will debate you using logic and reason to the best of my limited abilities.
Until then, if you have designs on the office of Pope or the presidency, you currently have my full support.
Faust.
Faust
Active Member
Dear TranceAm,TranceAm said:I didn't read it that way. I was more hoping for a reply based on or inspired by for example your Beatles quote. That would share some of the insights you have found when pondering such quotes for references in your own life. (Afterall that is what they are for...
I am he, as you are he, as you are me, and we are are all together, struck a chord with me because I had already been pondering interconnectedness when I first heard the words to the song " I am the WaIrus".
I recorded a six hour documentary as a teen- ager on the Beatles and one portion dealt with this song written by John Lennon and as the story goes, he was awakened from a nightmare by the sound of sirens. He was thus inspired to wright the lyrics to this song. You have to keep in mind that at this time fans were looking for secret meanings to their songs and they, John, Paul, George, and John Starkey aka Ringo, were playing on this. (The whole thing about Paul is dead, Billy Squire, Walrus as death sign in extreme north-american Indian culture were also incorporated into the tapestry.)
If listened to closely, it is a social commentary on the culture of the late sixties, early seventies.
I think the single most quote that hit me like a ton of bricks because it was also so in line with my own thoughts was "life is what happens to you while your busy making other plans" ( John Lennon). So you can "Imagine" how I might feel when others make statements that hit a bullseye with me, and just happen to spark earlier fond memories of a group of individuals whom I found such a profound commonality of thought with.
However, if I am to remain true to the original thread, I must stop being an apologist and address the subject at hand.
If any of us simply recalls a dreamless night, That is my conception of death.
Faust.
experiment13
New Member
I'm an atheist, so i don't think that any gods exist, but i do believe in reincarnation, and in the human soul, and frankly the thought that everybody is technically immortal does sound fairly cool, the reason that i sometimes find it depressing is because every time your reincarnated you lose the memories of your old life, all you did, who you loved, family members, and would start a completely new life with no recollection of your old personality, is almost worse than the idea of darkness for all eternity.
by the way, this isn't me saying that i know what its like, but i once had a weird dream and i died in it, a sudden death as well, and what happened was that there was darkness all around me and nothing but the sound of my rapid breath, but even that started to slowly recede, so i think that may be what death is actually like, but i hope it isn't :no:
by the way, this isn't me saying that i know what its like, but i once had a weird dream and i died in it, a sudden death as well, and what happened was that there was darkness all around me and nothing but the sound of my rapid breath, but even that started to slowly recede, so i think that may be what death is actually like, but i hope it isn't :no:
jmn
Member
, about like gods or reincarnation.
