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What are the Attributes of Brahman God from Veda?

paarsurrey

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What are the Attributes of Brahman God from Veda?

Please give the attributes with illustration by quotes from Yajurveda.
Right? Please
Regards

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Conceptualized from the following posts:
#85 from
#86 from
One may like to read them.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
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I sure hope you are no longer trying to convince people that Brahman is less real, less venerable or less truthful than Allah, @paarsurrey .

I do not particularly believe so, though.
 

paarsurrey

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I sure hope you are no longer trying to convince people that Brahman is less real, less venerable or less truthful than Allah, @paarsurrey .

I do not particularly believe so, though.
Did I ever say that? I believe that it is the attributes that needs to be understood, names could be different with various people in their own languages. Attributes are generic.
Muhammad did not invent the name "Allah", the Meccans already believed in Him. Muhammad's father's name was "Abdullah" who died before birth of Muhammad. Abdullah means servant of Allah.
Allah revealed to Muhammad His fine attributes. One aspect of Quran is that it is an illustration of attributes of ONE-GOD.
And these are very reasonable and easily understandable. Please
Regards
 

sayak83

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What are the Attributes of Brahman God from Veda?

Please give the attributes with illustration by quotes from Yajurveda.
Right? Please
Regards

__________
Conceptualized from the following posts:
#85 from
#86 from
One may like to read them.
First learn what the Vedas are.

Vedas - Wikipedia

There are four Vedas: the Rigveda, the Yajurveda, the Samaveda and the Atharvaveda.[12][13] Each Veda has been subclassified into four major text types – the Samhitas (mantras and benedictions), the Aranyakas (text on rituals, ceremonies, sacrifices and symbolic-sacrifices), the Brahmanas (commentaries on rituals, ceremonies and sacrifices), and the Upanishads (texts discussing meditation, philosophy and spiritual knowledge).
Vedic Sanskrit corpus
The corpus of Vedic Sanskrit texts includes:

  • The Samhitas (Sanskrit saṃhitā, "collection"), are collections of metric texts ("mantras"). There are four "Vedic" Samhitas: the Rig-Veda, Sama-Veda, Yajur-Veda, and Atharva-Veda, most of which are available in several recensions (śākhā). In some contexts, the term Veda is used to refer to these Samhitas. This is the oldest layer of Vedic texts, apart from the Rigvedic hymns, which were probably essentially complete by 1200 BC, dating to c. the 12th to 10th centuries BC. The complete corpus of Vedic mantras as collected in Bloomfield's Vedic Concordance (1907) consists of some 89,000 padas (metrical feet), of which 72,000 occur in the four Samhitas.[46]
  • The Brahmanas are prose texts that comment and explain the solemn rituals as well as expound on their meaning and many connected themes. Each of the Brahmanas is associated with one of the Samhitas or its recensions.[47][48] The Brahmanas may either form separate texts or can be partly integrated into the text of the Samhitas. They may also include the Aranyakas and Upanishads.
  • The Aranyakas, "wilderness texts" or "forest treaties", were composed by people who meditated in the woods as recluses and are the third part of the Vedas. The texts contain discussions and interpretations of ceremonies, from ritualisitic to symbolic meta-ritualistic points of view.[49] It is frequently read in secondary literature.
  • Older Mukhya Upanishads (Bṛhadāraṇyaka, Chandogya, Kaṭha, Kena, Aitareya, and others).[50][51]
The Samhitas (the ones you read), the Brahmanas, the Aryanakas and the Upanisads together form the Vedas. Has always been that way. Thus Brihadaranyaka upanisad is in Yajurveda and Chandayoga upanisad is in Samaveda. Of course the upanisads discuss Brahman a lot. Watch the thread on the topic I have created in the Hinduism DIR.

LINK

I am currently discussing Brihadaranyaka Upanisad which is in Yajurveda. So it satisfies your idiosyncratic criteria.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
First learn what the Vedas are.

Vedas - Wikipedia


The Samhitas (the ones you read), the Brahmanas, the Aryanakas and the Upanisads together form the Vedas. Has always been that way. Thus Brihadaranyaka upanisad is in Yajurveda and Chandayoga upanisad is in Samaveda. Of course the upanisads discuss Brahman a lot. Watch the thread on the topic I have created in the Hinduism DIR.

LINK

I am currently discussing Brihadaranyaka Upanisad which is in Yajurveda. So it satisfies your idiosyncratic criteria.

If Upanisads are a part of Veda, then one could quote from the four Vedas for the attributes of Brahman. So please quote from the Veda directly in support of one's viewpoint. Please
Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
As someone who professes to be familiar with this subject, am I to assume you understand the terms Saguna Brahman and Nirguna Brahman?
The former mean immortal, imperishable, eternal, and the later impersonal, but please where these have been illustrated in the Veda? That is the focal point. Please
Regards
 

Kirran

Premium Member
The former mean immortal, imperishable, eternal, and the later impersonal, but please where these have been illustrated in the Veda? That is the focal point. Please
Regards

Nope, that description might be said to apply better to the latter. Although ultimately all description is inevitably false.

Study Advaita Vedanta. And anyway, why's that the point?
 

Vinayaka

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Premium Member
What are the Attributes of Brahman God from Veda?

Please give the attributes with illustration by quotes from Yajurveda.
Right? Please
Regards

Please answer this question. Why does an Amadiyya Muslim care? Is he wishing to convert?

Absolute Brahman is beyond time, form, and space, so has no attributes.
 

sayak83

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If Upanisads are a part of Veda, then one could quote from the four Vedas for the attributes of Brahman. So please quote from the Veda directly in support of one's viewpoint. Please
Regards
Ok. This is from Brihadaranyaka Upanisad (BHU) which is part of Yajurveda.

BHU 2.5:- The honey sermons. (No interpretation is provided. Read it first).

The earth is the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of this earth. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in the earth and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person(purusah) residing in the physical body - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

These waters are the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of these waters. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in the waters and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person residing in the seed (semen) - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole

This fire is the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of this fire The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in the fire and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person residing in speech - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

This wind is the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of this wind. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in the wind and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person residing in breath - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

This sun is the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of this sun. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in the sun and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person residing in sight - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

These quarters (directions) are the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of these quarters. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in the quarters and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person residing in hearing - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

This moon is the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of this moon. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in the moon, and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person residing in the mind - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

This lightning is the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of this lightning. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in the lightning, and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person in the effulgence of life - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

This thunder is the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of this thunder. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in thunder, and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person connected with sound and tone - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

This space (akasa) is the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of this space. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in this space, and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person residing in the space within the heart - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

This Law (Dharma) is the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of this Law. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in the Law, and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person devoted to the Law (Dharma) - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

This Truth is the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of this Truth. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in the Truth, and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person devoted to Truth - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

This humanity is the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of this humanity. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in humanity, and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person existing as a human - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

This self (atman) is the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of this self. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in the self, and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person existing as a self - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

This very Self (atman) is the Lord and King of all beings. As all the spokes are fastened to the hub and the rim of a wheel, so to one's Self (atman) are fastened all beings, all gods, all the worlds, all the breaths, and all these bodies.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Ok. This is from Brihadaranyaka Upanisad (BHU) which is part of Yajurveda.

BHU 2.5:- The honey sermons. (No interpretation is provided. Read it first).

The earth is the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of this earth. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in the earth and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person(purusah) residing in the physical body - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

These waters are the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of these waters. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in the waters and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person residing in the seed (semen) - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole

This fire is the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of this fire The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in the fire and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person residing in speech - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

This wind is the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of this wind. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in the wind and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person residing in breath - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

This sun is the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of this sun. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in the sun and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person residing in sight - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

These quarters (directions) are the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of these quarters. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in the quarters and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person residing in hearing - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

This moon is the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of this moon. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in the moon, and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person residing in the mind - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

This lightning is the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of this lightning. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in the lightning, and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person in the effulgence of life - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

This thunder is the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of this thunder. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in thunder, and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person connected with sound and tone - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

This space (akasa) is the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of this space. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in this space, and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person residing in the space within the heart - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

This Law (Dharma) is the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of this Law. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in the Law, and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person devoted to the Law (Dharma) - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

This Truth is the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of this Truth. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in the Truth, and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person devoted to Truth - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

This humanity is the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of this humanity. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in humanity, and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person existing as a human - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

This self (atman) is the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of this self. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in the self, and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person existing as a self - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole.

This very Self (atman) is the Lord and King of all beings. As all the spokes are fastened to the hub and the rim of a wheel, so to one's Self (atman) are fastened all beings, all gods, all the worlds, all the breaths, and all these bodies.
Please provide reference of Yajurveda Chapter number, verses numbers.
Regards
 

sayak83

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Please provide reference of Yajurveda Chapter number, verses numbers.
Regards
I told you Brihadaranyaka Upanisad, 2.5.
Did you not understand anything I said?

The earliest and most ancient layer of Yajurveda samhita includes about 1,875 verses, that are distinct yet borrow and build upon the foundation of verses in Rigveda.[5][6] The middle layer includes the Satapatha Brahmana, one of the largest Brahmana texts in the Vedic collection.[7] The youngest layer of Yajurveda text includes the largest collection of primary Upanishads, influential to various schools of Hindu philosophy. These include the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad, the Isha Upanishad, the Taittiriya Upanishad, the Katha Upanishad, the Shvetashvatara Upanishad and the Maitri Upanishad.[8][9]

Yajurveda - Wikipedia

What you insist on calling the Yajurveda is simply the first "chants and psalms" section of the Yajurveda (called Yajurveda-Samhita) and that book is followed by the Satapatha Brahmana and the Upanisads all together forming the Yajurveda corpus of revealed scripture. Got it?
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Wikipedia is never the be all and end all of everything.
You can't even read correctly. Wizanda did not say Wikipedia, he said Google. Search Google or any other search engine.
One aspect of Quran is that it is an illustration of attributes of ONE-GOD. And these are very reasonable and easily understandable.
You find it that way. Others may have different views. I find even the belief in existence of any God to be foolish.
First learn what the Vedas are.
At least I am sure that Paarsurrey does not have any desire to learn.
What you insist on calling the Yajurveda is simply the first "chants and psalms" section of the Yajurveda (called Yajurveda-Samhita) and that book is followed by the Satapatha Brahmana and the Upanisads all together forming the Yajurveda corpus?
He only knows YajurVeda translation by Devi Chand. He does not understand about Brahmanas, Aranyakas and Upanishads. Not just Brihadaranyaka but Katha, Taittiriya, Shvetashvatara, Maitrayani and Ishavasya Upanishads are part of YajurVeda. As I said he is not here to learn. He is happy in his jahilliyat.
 
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Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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Ok. This is from Brihadaranyaka Upanisad (BHU) which is part of Yajurveda.

BHU 2.5:- The honey sermons. (No interpretation is provided. Read it first).

The earth is the honey of all beings, and all beings are the honey of this earth. The radiant and immortal person (purusah) in the earth and, in the case of the body, the radiant and immortal person(purusah) residing in the physical body - they are both one's Self (atman). It is immortal; it is Brahman; it is the Whole. ...


Just a side note, that has the same structure as Mantra Pushpam. I have to find this in Sanskrit to compare, Latin alphabet though.
 
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