Viking Arrival In NA Dated

[The Hammer]

Vikings did reach North America a thousand years ago -- and now we know exactly when

A story of stars, trees, solar bursts, and Vikings.

www.zmescience.com

Norse/Viking arrival in North America dated using evidence Cosmology and rRadiocarbon methods.

1021 CE. Almost exactly 1000 years ago.

 

[Heyo]

Vikings did reach North America a thousand years ago -- and now we know exactly when

A story of stars, trees, solar bursts, and Vikings.

www.zmescience.com

Norse/Viking arrival in North America dated using evidence Cosmology and rRadiocarbon methods.

1021 CE. Almost exactly 1000 years ago.

Matches roughly the Vinland Sagas which put it around 1010.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Vikings did reach North America a thousand years ago -- and now we know exactly when

A story of stars, trees, solar bursts, and Vikings.

www.zmescience.com

Norse/Viking arrival in North America dated using evidence Cosmology and rRadiocarbon methods.

1021 CE. Almost exactly 1000 years ago.

So they just barely beat Columbus.

 

[sun rise]

So they just barely beat Columbus.

400 years is more than "barely".

I've seen a number of programs about the Vikings in North America which went from myth to controversial evidence to acceptance. This is a classic example of how to treat ancient myths - see if there is any evidence to be found, examine it skeptically and with different perspectives and if the myth has a basis replace the myth with accepted evidence.

 

[Subduction Zone]

400 years is more than "barely".

I've seen a number of programs about the Vikings in North America which went from myth to controversial evidence to acceptance. This is a classic example of how to treat ancient myths - see if there is any evidence to be found, examine it skeptically and with different perspectives and if the myth has a basis replace the myth with accepted evidence.

Almost five hundred in fact. Okay, just this once. More than just a little.

 

[Heyo]

400 years is more than "barely".

Compared to the first people discovering the Americas it is "barely". And the evidence is mounting that it might have been much earlier than anyone thought.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

400 years is more than "barely".

I've seen a number of programs about the Vikings in North America which went from myth to controversial evidence to acceptance. This is a classic example of how to treat ancient myths - see if there is any evidence to be found, examine it skeptically and with different perspectives and if the myth has a basis replace the myth with accepted evidence.

There's legends of Europeans traveling by boat to the Americas centuries before the Vikings, even. I think people made it over here a bunch of times over history. It's not that difficult, from either the North Atlantic or North Pacific. There's clearly been multiple human migrations here through Asia, too.

 

[metis]

Vikings did reach North America a thousand years ago -- and now we know exactly when

A story of stars, trees, solar bursts, and Vikings.

www.zmescience.com

Norse/Viking arrival in North America dated using evidence Cosmology and rRadiocarbon methods.

1021 CE. Almost exactly 1000 years ago.

No surprise as there have been some blonde-haired blue-eyed Inuit going back long prior to Colombus. Now with the dna testing, proof is here.

 

[Rival]

There's legends of Europeans traveling by boat to the Americas centuries before the Vikings, even. I think people made it over here a bunch of times over history. It's not that difficult, from either the North Atlantic or North Pacific. There's clearly been multiple human migrations here through Asia, too.

The difficulties would have been the ice left over from the European Ice Age. It only became possible to sail from England directly to the Low Countries in the year 1000 AD. So goodness knows what the Atlantic was like. They would have needed large boats to carry copious amounts of beer or other drinkable liquid, preserved foods and other materials for life. This is probably why it didn't happen often. The main factor would be the ice. Sailing the Atlantic, especially to Canada, is treacherous now, let alone in a huge ice field. I'm also not sure how the landscape has changed on the coasts.

 

[Hold]

Because of Columbus, we think of the European discovery of America. There is evidence that the Polynesians may have been earlier visitors to America.
Did the Polynesians reach America?

• The new DNA evidence, taken together with archaeological and linguistic evidence regarding the timeline of Polynesian expansion, suggests that an original contact date between 500 CE and 700 CE between Polynesia and America seems likely.

 

[Brickjectivity]

So they just barely beat Columbus.

Believe what you will. Nobody beats Columbus! He's too tough and deceitful. Head of pure stone.

 

[Viker]

Another compelling legend is about hundreds of years before that Irish monks or fishermen may have arrived.

Someone told me they thought the Ninth Legion, while trying to get to Scotland via the Celtic/Irish seas, somehow got off course and landed in the Americas in the 2nd century ce. Don't know how credible that would be. They may have just been lost at sea.

 

[ChristineM]

Watched a documentary a few years ago about how cro magnon could have got there.
A skeleton in south America has been identified as cro magnon. Tools with similarities to European cro magnon have been found in several locations both north and south America

 

[Rival]

Another compelling legend is about hundreds of years before that Irish monks or fishermen may have arrived.

Someone told me they thought the Ninth Legion, while trying to get to Scotland via the Celtic/Irish seas, somehow got off course and landed in the Americas in the 2nd century ce. Don't know how credible that would be. They may have just been lost at sea.

It seems unlikely. Even in the 20th c. a ship from Europe to the Americas took about a week. Without steam etc. it would have taken over a month. That's basically death of starvation and cold, since they were unlikely to prepare for that timeframe.

 

[Rival]

Watched a documentary a few years ago about how cro magnon could have got there.
A skeleton in south America has been identified as cro magnon. Tools with similarities to European cro magnon have been found in several locations both north and south America

Was this around the timeframe that the icebridge was available, that the soon-to-become Native Americans used?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Was this around the timeframe that the icebridge was available, that the soon-to-become Native Americans used?

No. That was far earlier.

And it was not an "ice bridge". During the last glaciation the northern parts of North America, Europe, and Asia were covered with huge thick ice sheets. That water had to come from somewhere and the somewhere was ultimately the oceans. Sea levels dropped during the ice age so that people could walk on land from far north eastern Asia to far north western North America. The Bering land bridge was flooded as the glaciers melted. It was gone about 10,000 to 11,000 years ago. Just a shade further back than either Columbus or even the Vikings.

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[Rival]

No. That was far earlier.

And it was not an "ice bridge". During the last glaciation the northern parts of North America, Europe, and Asia were covered with huge thick ice sheets. That water had to come from somewhere and the somewhere was ultimately the oceans. Sea levels dropped during the ice age so that people could walk on land from far north eastern Asia to far north western North America. The Bering land bridge was flooded as the glaciers melted. It was gone about 10,000 to 11,000 years ago. Just a shade further back than either Columbus or even the Vikings.

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That's what I meant, the Bering Strait. Sorry, I'm drunk

 

[Subduction Zone]

That's what I meant. Sorry, I'm drunk

Always a valid excuse!! Have one for me.

 

[Rival]

@Subduction Zone this is why I'm sceptical of the Celts going there though, because that was long before their time. I don't see them going to the Americas.

 

[Rival]

Always a valid excuse!! Have one for me.

I'm having ale. My favourite.