Verifiable evidence for creationism?

[leibowde84]

Cre·a·tion·ism
krēˈāSHəˌnizəm/
noun

1. the belief that the universe and living organisms originate from specific acts of divine creation, as in the biblical account, rather than by natural processes such as evolution.

Is there any? I often hear creationists lean on arguments from ignorance or the present lack of scientific understanding, but I've never heard of any verifiable evidence for it.

 

[Sapiens]

Cre·a·tion·ism
krēˈāSHəˌnizəm/
noun

1. the belief that the universe and living organisms originate from specific acts of divine creation, as in the biblical account, rather than by natural processes such as evolution.

Is there any? I often hear creationists lean on arguments from ignorance or the present lack of scientific understanding, but I've never heard of any verifiable evidence for it.

... and you won't.

 

[Deathbydefault]

Cre·a·tion·ism
krēˈāSHəˌnizəm/
noun

1. the belief that the universe and living organisms originate from specific acts of divine creation, as in the biblical account, rather than by natural processes such as evolution.

Is there any? I often hear creationists lean on arguments from ignorance or the present lack of scientific understanding, but I've never heard of any verifiable evidence for it.

If there was any such evidence you can believe we'd never hear the end of it.

 

[Skwim]

If there was any such evidence you can believe we'd never hear the end of it.

Exactly. It would be trotted out at every opportunity, but instead we get mindless attacks on evolution that take on all sorts of shapes and colors.

 

[Thief]

Cre·a·tion·ism
krēˈāSHəˌnizəm/
noun

1. the belief that the universe and living organisms originate from specific acts of divine creation, as in the biblical account, rather than by natural processes such as evolution.

Is there any? I often hear creationists lean on arguments from ignorance or the present lack of scientific understanding, but I've never heard of any verifiable evidence for it.

the definition has a built in pivot.
I say the big bang and evolution are evidence of God.

 

[leibowde84]

the definition has a built in pivot.
I say the big bang and evolution are evidence of God.

Is that based on arguments from ignorance though? For example, "how could something come from nothing", "how could evolution work so beautifully", complexity of life, etc.?

 

[Skwim]

the definition has a built in pivot.
I say the big bang and evolution are evidence of God.

And the definition is a bit misleading. In contrasting creationism with evolution, a process that is almost always restricted to addressing the variety of life, it suggest that the creationism v. evolution issue also involves the origin of the universe.

 

[leibowde84]

And the definition is a bit misleading. In contrasting creationism with evolution, a process that is almost always restricted to addressing the variety of life, it suggest that the creationism v. evolution issue also involves the origin of the universe.

I just took the common usage from google.

 

[McBell]

Cre·a·tion·ism
krēˈāSHəˌnizəm/
noun

1. the belief that the universe and living organisms originate from specific acts of divine creation, as in the biblical account, rather than by natural processes such as evolution.

Is there any? I often hear creationists lean on arguments from ignorance or the present lack of scientific understanding, but I've never heard of any verifiable evidence for it.

Where is hte world did you get that crazy definition of creationism?

Edit:
Nevermind.
It is the Oxford Dictionary.
Wow.
That is sad.
I mean, when a dictionary panders to the propaganda.....

 

[Quintessence]

Where is hte world did you get that crazy definition of creationism?

Edit:
Nevermind.
It is the Oxford Dictionary.
Wow.
That is sad.
I mean, when a dictionary panders to the propaganda.....

What do you mean? Standard dictionaries are designed for a particular purpose, and they neither aim to or are capable of encompassing the full denotations and connotations of words across various cultures, subcultures, and specialized disciplines.

 

[Deathbydefault]

How we define "creationism" online is very different from how it's defined in open discussion.
We obviously have a huge amount of resources at our disposal, a dictionary being the most useful one.

I could example "theist" as a term that is used similarly offline as "creationism" is.
I've seen many people say theist is a "strange" term, when it is actually quite simple.

While semantics games might not be the most fun to play, you need to get halfway to one to have a real discussion.
If someone came to me and equated theism with spirituality from a specific viewpoint, I would disagree as that is not true.
Linguistically it seems to be, but it is not by definition or proper phrasing.
Creationism has the same sort of effect.

There are rather famous people whom debate creationism, and refer to it as some sort of ubiquitous terminology.
As though it were prominent in everything, whilst its definition says otherwise.
Some people would do good to refer to a dictionary now and then, to keep the word playing field even.

Not that it actually matters, so long as definitions can be agreed on, proper discourse can proceed.

 

[Noa]

To the original post, no, there is not.

 

[Thief]

Cre·a·tion·ism
krēˈāSHəˌnizəm/
noun

1. the belief that the universe and living organisms originate from specific acts of divine creation, as in the biblical account, rather than by natural processes such as evolution.

Is there any? I often hear creationists lean on arguments from ignorance or the present lack of scientific understanding, but I've never heard of any verifiable evidence for it.

fess up....your line drawn cannot be met.
verifiable?
as in photo? fingerprint? equation? repeatable experiment?

you know very well ......the pivot was built in

Faith needs no proving.....see Webster's

 

[leibowde84]

fess up....your line drawn cannot be met.
verifiable?
as in photo? fingerprint? equation? repeatable experiment?

you know very well ......the pivot was built in

Faith needs no proving.....see Webster's

A simple "no" would be fine.

 

[Thief]

A simple "no" would be fine.

not for you.....
and a positive answer, you will not accept.

it's your line drawn, and you assume opponents care to cross it......
all the while you just say.....nay, not verifiable

you have created another thread of simple denial

 

[leibowde84]

not for you.....
and a positive answer, you will not accept.

it's your line drawn, and you assume opponents care to cross it......
all the while you just say.....nay, not verifiable

you have created another thread of simple denial

I was merely curious is there was any evidence that I am unaware of. Just curious.

 

[McBell]

What do you mean? Standard dictionaries are designed for a particular purpose, and they neither aim to or are capable of encompassing the full denotations and connotations of words across various cultures, subcultures, and specialized disciplines.

The fact that evolution has nothing to do with how life started....
That a dictionary would pander to that falsehood is most damaging to said dictionaries credibility.

 

[McBell]

you have created another thread of simple denial

You are rather quick to make the denial accusation.
Pray tell, what is it you claim is being denied?

 

[Quintessence]

The fact that evolution has nothing to do with how life started....
That a dictionary would pander to that falsehood is most damaging to said dictionaries credibility.

That's not how the definition read to me at all. Origin of living organisms includes explaining biodiversity, which directly relates to evolution, and the definition made a point of saying "such as" to make it obvious that evolution is an example of a naturalistic explanation.

 

[Thief]

I was merely curious is there was any evidence that I am unaware of. Just curious.

look in the mirror and call yourself an accident....
does that seem correct?
all that complexity coming together over centuries.....in spite of the improbability....
and there you are...looking at some accident?

and then look about you...
billions of copies, each one unique
each one forming a unique spirit
and the results end up in a box, in the ground

Eternal darkness is physically real.

choose