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Unrealistic Portrayals and Misconceptions

Nashitheki

Hollawitta
Unrealistic Portrayals and Misconceptions
From early childhood I’ve seen American Indians portrayed as either the enemy or overly helpful, simple childlike savages eager to aid the white man against those other Indians who happen to be putting up a struggle in defense of their homelands and lives.

I can recall those cold rainy Saturdays watching television westerns and motion pictures depicting people like me as being bloodthirsty murderous heathens bent upon circling wagon trains like open targets, or massacring settlers in their isolated frontier communities. Being young, I became almost convinced that those friendly Indians like Tonto or Mingo were the good guys and helping those early settlers along with the military was the right thing to do. Having a father in the military and being in close contact with other military families furthered such misconceptions in my mind. It wasn’t until I was around 15 or so did the fog of misconception clear. The summer ended and school started again. One of the new kids was a Meskwaki, and like myself his folks were military. We struck up a friendship rather quickly and during that long friendship I learned much about the real history of what he called the European invasion. This prompted me into doing research at the public library. I read how English friendly Mohegan warriors helped destroy the Pequot and were later rewarded by being driven away from their own homelands. I was taken aback in finding out how the Cherokee who aided General Andrew Jackson against the Creeks at Horseshoe Bend were later evicted from their ancient homelands by the same man they loyally assisted. Then there were the Apache scouts who helped tracked Geronimo rewarded for their endeavors by being sent to prisoner of war camps in Florida along with the ‘hostiles’ they helped subdue. A childhood of being Americanized started to slip away. Much to my folks dismay, I grew my hair long and had a rather hip Meskwaki kid and his knowledgeable mother and older brother helping me learn eastern woodland Algonquian culture and history as my previous encounters with visiting kin from the reservation and other places were quite guarded by my Christian anglicized parents. Oh how they thought my Meskwaki friends were a bad influence, but by the time I turned 17, they gave up any further attempts of anglicizing me. When my younger sister became interested our tribal heritage, my mother became more allowing thus quelling a lot of my father’s opposition although he complained about my long hair until he died.

Reflecting upon those years before meeting my Meswaki friends, I often get on YouTube and watch clips of old western or frontier movies and see exactly how the entertainment industry attempted to justify brutal conquest, colonialism and murderous manifest destiny.

Summed up a bit -

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How Hollywood stereotyped the Native Americans - YouTube
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
There is still a lot of stereotyping going on today... Just look at Johnny Depp's version of Tonto, based off fantasy Indian paintings.
Newspaper Rock: Open letter to Johnny Depp's Tonto
Johnny Depp

The "sexy Indian princess" is still a common one, just look at portrayals from Pocahontas (actually a 12 year old girl) to Tiger Lilly to the horror shows of hipster fashion shows.
Native Appropriations
BEYOND BUCKSKIN

The "casino indian" is another modern stereotype used to denigrate American Indians.
The “Casino Indian” Stereotype « nativeamericanmedia
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Not to mention the long history of "poverty porn"
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More than that... - YouTube
More than that...Native American kids speak out - Dakota O'Leary - Open Salon
Newspaper Rock: Rez Life avoids poverty porn

In with all their comedy the 1491's take time to tackle the serious issues of stereotyping with their series "Represent". Real American Indians/Native Americans/First Nations people talking and showing their pride and their lives.
the1491s - YouTube

And there is this one about the recent use of Geronimo's name as a military operation.
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Geronimo E-KIA, a poem by the 1491s - YouTube

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Nashitheki

Hollawitta
Then came a time when American Indian culture became trendy, New Age gurus started putting their own spin on Indian spirituality. People like Lynn Andrews and Kiesha Crowther gained popularity and money misrepresenting Indian spirituality. Popular culture had reinvented the American Indian from blood thirsty savage into a mystical people often portrayed in art appearing more European in features than Native. It seemed we were being remade in another variation of the white man's image.

Again the entertainment industry wanted a piece of the action, this time depicting Indians as more human, but in a supporting cast sort of way.

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Independent Lens | REEL INJUN | Clip 3| PBS - YouTube
 

Nashitheki

Hollawitta
Artistic attempt of depicting an Indian woman as a feather wearing mystical creature with the standard wolf backdrop. She doesn't even look American Indian and what eagle or bird here in this land has white, red tipped feathers ? Such art is quite popular with the non-Indian wannabees. I guess they can identify with it.

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Nashitheki

Hollawitta
Another such piece. This one really bothers me. I wonder if the artist also wrote the 'Ten Native American Commandments' as well -

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painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
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**** people say to native americans - YouTube

We never expected this video to get big outside of Tumblr (considering all that was going on and our fight to have folks realize that not all native people fit the stereotypical image that the Americans and Canadians have of us).
It’s interesting to see that the “you don’t look Native,” “you’re white,” “this video is good, but I wish that a real Native person would have made it” comments keep coming back again and again, as this was a video made part to fight some of that same stuff. But, I suppose it’s is too ingrained into the dominate culture and our cultures as well.
http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwo...ative-americans”-responds-comments-and-shares



racism | Tumblr

She doesn't "Look Native"… | random babble…
Metaphysical to Mundane: Ignorance -Don't judge a Native American by their braids......

wa:do
 

Nashitheki

Hollawitta
How many times have you seen these plastic bead and chicken feather adorned, made in China dreamcatchers hanging from a rear view mirror ?

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Who would be attempting to catch dreams while driving ? Hopefully they are not asleep behind the wheel.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
That is an argument I've had on these forums a maddening number of times. It's frustrating how many people brush the mascot issue aside.

wa:do

Part of what I find offensive is that it's so incredibly easy to change. In daily life, if you inadvertently offend someone, a cultural faux pas, most polite people can apologize and not do it again.
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
Part of what I find offensive is that it's so incredibly easy to change. In daily life, if you inadvertently offend someone, a cultural faux pas, most polite people can apologize and not do it again.
Absolutely, but these people literally celebrate their offensiveness. They are more attached to seeing Native Americans as stereotype than they are willing to see us as real people.

wa:do
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
How many times have you seen these plastic bead and chicken feather adorned, made in China dreamcatchers hanging from a rear view mirror ?

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Who would be attempting to catch dreams while driving ? Hopefully they are not asleep behind the wheel.
Ugh... I had a very well meaning friend give me one of these... I had to walk the line between being grateful for the thought behind the gift and explaining why it was a terrible, subtly insulting gift. :cover:

wa:do
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
Here is another thing to tweak stereotypes... the Navajo (Dine) and Hopi people are some of the most avid listeners and producers of Reggae and other Afro-Carribian music in the USA.

I have to say I'm rather fond of Casper and Native Roots but I'm kind of sad I haven't had much chance to listen to much more.

Lol... this thread has gotten me back into digging through my music collection and wanting to expand it more.

wa:do



wa:do
 
Artistic attempt of depicting an Indian woman as a feather wearing mystical creature with the standard wolf backdrop. She doesn't even look American Indian and what eagle or bird here in this land has white, red tipped feathers ? Such art is quite popular with the non-Indian wannabees. I guess they can identify with it.

14nimbq.jpg
Hey, are you gonna use that? Would be a great one for the Twilight werewolf indian character!
 

Nashitheki

Hollawitta
Before going out to capture a beautiful pioneer woman, it's good to pump up first, oil my body, apply lots of hair products, blow dry and always have my breath mints handy.

She's looking her best for such an abduction, so why can't I ?

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Thanks brother. There goes a whole roll of towels to clean up the snorted coffee on the screen.:facepalm:
The horse looks like he's seen it all before. The chick is checkin' out the muscle tone and to see if the tan is gonna come off on her hand.
 

Nashitheki

Hollawitta
"Hey, are you gonna use that? Would be a great one for the Twilight werewolf indian character!"

How about this one ? Kind of looks like Valerie Bertinelli in a doeskin dress -

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She's showing a little shoulder, you know what that means
 
Before going out to capture a beautiful pioneer woman, it's good to pump up first, oil my body, apply lots of hair products, blow dry and always have my breath mints handy.

She's looking her best for such an abduction, so why can't I ?

255l89f.jpg
Chief Hump-and-Run's pony rides were always a big hit at the county fair.:facepalm:
 
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