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Trump must be in the Bible

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by questfortruth, Jan 10, 2020.

  1. Nakosis

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    That I'm at least smart enough to realize that people don't give two hoots about what I believe.
     
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    Yeah, most definitely not! That verse has been misused to support people like Hitler. Trump is not worthy of any Christian's respect.
     
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    All men, all angels, good or evil, all creation in Heaven and earth, and Godhead - Father, Son and Holy Ghost/Spirit are in the Bible.

    So, yes, you, I and Trump are in the Bible, but Trump is not a fulfillment of Revelation 6:4.

    Rev 6:4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.​

    This passage has to do with the persecution of the church, that took place after the White Horse (Gospel and Jesus) went forth conquering and to conquer.
    Revelation 6 & 8 – The Seven Seals and their Symbols identified:

    Lion (Jesus) - “valiant” 2 Samuel 17:10; “bold” Proverbs 28:1; “strongest” Proverbs 30:30; Hosea 5:14-15, 13:4-7; “roar – voice of God” Amos 3:7-8; Revelation 10:3 (Divinity; Kingly); “Judah – Lion” Genesis 49:9; “Israel” Genesis 32:28; Numbers 24:8-9; Matthew 2:13-15; Hosea 11:1; Hebrews 2:13; Isaiah 8:16,18; Luke 11:22; John 16:33; Romans 12:21; Hebrews 3:6 (Jeremiah 31:31,33; Hebrews 8:8,10); Revelation 3:21.

    Root of David (Jesus) – Revelation 5:5, 22:16; Isaiah 11:1,10; Jeremiah 23:5-6; Romans 1:3, 15:12 (Humanity, Kingly).

    Lamb (Jesus) – Revelation 5:6; Genesis 3:15,21; Revelation 13:8, 21:14; John 1:29,36 (Sacrificial, Love) - “worthy” (worship) Revelation 5:12.

    Seven Seals - “Who wrote the book/scroll, sealed?”, “Who sealed it?”, “Where is it first seen?”, “Which hand?”, “Why is that important?” (Psalms 16:11), “What is the significance of the Seven Seals?” (More seals, more protection, of more value, etc), “What is in it?”, “Who is the only one able to open and look (read) it?” - Please take note that no man (person) on earth (alive), under the earth (dead and in the grave), or in heaven (alive, Enoch, Elijah, Moses), nor any angel, group of angels, or created being in heaven (4 Beasts/Living Creatures, not all the council of the 24 Elders (leaders of unfallen worlds)), or all creation together in Heaven and in earth could open that book/scroll, but only One equal with the Father, who could enter into all the counsels of God the Father could, for what created being can by searching find out the wisdom of God? What being could ever take by force, cunning, learning, etc from the hand of God except it be given to them? - John 10:29; Romans 11:34; 1 Corinthians 2:16; Job 9:10,12; Ecclesiastes 8:4; Daniel 4:35; Matthew 21:23-27; Mark 11:27-33; Luke 20:1-8; John 2:18. Please notice John's intense interest at what was in the sealed book/scroll, as well as all of Heaven? Why then does mortal mankind, not also have such interest in that which is in the right hand of God? Why are we so focused upon the things of this earth?

    Read “Letter65 (1898)” in the SoP/ToJ for information in regards what is in the sealed book/scroll, in that there were “no spaces” left in it, and every place filled up to the full, nothing to be added, nor taken away, it was the complete and whole counsel and wisdom of God, prophecy, history, etc.

    “hath prevailed” - Revelation 5:5; “my vows” - Psalms 116:14,18; “God Heard” - Psalms 61:5; Luke 11:22; John 16:33; Romans 12:21; Revelation 3:21.

    “Come and see” - Psalms 66:5 (Psalms 66:1-20); John 1:35-39,45-46 (When Jesus said, “Come and see”, it was in regards to the question, “Where dwellest thou?”, and thus Jesus responded by saying, Come and see how/where I live, where/how I dwell/live, my life, the way, truth and life); Psalms 46:8 (“wonderful/terrible works of the Lord”) - Psalms 111:2, 126:1-3; Numbers 23:23; Psalms 66:3, 99:3; Ezekiel 1:8 (4 Creatures).

    “crown” (victory) – John 16:33; Revelation 3:21 – Gethsemane & Calvary – Psalms 98:1-3 (Psalms 98:1-9); Colossians 2:6-15 (Paul is citing from Psalms 98:1-3); Revelation 12:7-12; Romans 5:5-11; Psalms 24:1-10; Romans 1:8, 16:19; Colossians 1:23 (conquering); see also Psalms 68:18-25; Ephesians 4:8; Isaiah 26:19.

    Side note – Read Psalms 21,22,23,24 for the Life, Crucifixion, Death, Burial, Resurrection and Ascension of Jesus Christ.

    Four Beasts (Living Creatures) – (each of the four Beasts are associated with one of the first four Seals) (1st Lion face) (2nd Calf face) (3rd Man face) (4th Eagle face); Revelation 4:7, see also Ezekiel 1:10, 10:14 in connection with Zechariah 6:1-5, 4:6 (the Holy Ghost working through angels/men), see also the notes on the 4 Beasts in Revelation 4 & 5; Ezekiel, etc.

    Connect the first four Seals to the first four Churches and to the first four Trumpets. They are 3 parallel branches on the Candlestick structure of Revelation (Psalms 77:13), and connect the Seals to the 144,000 and to Satan in Revelation 20, and contrast them to those who are 'marked' by the Devil.

    Four Riders (Horsemen) & Four Horses – Zechariah 1:7-17, 4:6, 6:1-8. The Riders are in control of the Horses, like as unto a Head to a Body, a Husband to a Wife, as Christ to the Church, as Father to Son, as King to Kingdom. The Riders are “Horsemen” - 2 Kings 2:12, 13:14; see also Habakkuk 3:8-15; Psalms 45:3-5 (God), the Horse is the Vehicle for the Messenger with the Message.

    Please take note that after the White Horse, and rejection begins to take place, along with doubt, etc, we see the Rider of the Red horse with “Sword” (War), the Rider of the Black horse with Balances of “Famine” (shortage of Wheat & Barley), and we see the Rider of the Pale horse with “Pestilence”, just as we see in Jeremiah 14:10-18, 24:10, 29:17-18, see also Exodus 5:3, 9:15; Leviticus 26:25; Numbers 14:12; Deuteronomy 28:21; 2 Samuel 24:13-15; 1 Kings 8:37; 1 Chronicles 21:12-14; 2 Chronicles 6:28, 7:13, 20:9; Job 15:18-25; Psalms 78:50, 91:3,6; Isaiah 51:19; Jeremiah 5:12, 11:22-23, 14:10-18, 15:2, 16:4, 18:21, 21:7-9, 24:10, 27:8-13, 29:17-18, 32:24,36, 34:17, 38:2, 42:16-22, 44:12-27; Ezekiel 5:12,17, 6:11-12, 7:15, 12:16, 14:19-21, 38:22; Amos 4:10; Habakkuk 3:5; Romans 8:35. War brings on Famine, which brings on Pestilence, but God preserveth the righteous through them.

    Horses - “What are the used for in scripture?”, “What is their likeness?”
    Colour – (Associated with Character and signaling intent) – Acts 27:30; Genesis 37:3,23,32; Numbers 11:7; 2 Samuel 13:18-19; Revelation 17:3-4; Isaiah 54:11; Ezekiel 1:4,7,16,22,27, 8:2, 10:9, 16:16, 17:3; Daniel 10:6; Proverbs 23:31; Judges 5:30; Leviticus 13:55; 1 Chronicles 29:2 (Exodus 16:31).

    White – (Pure, Holy, Righteous, Light) – (meaning, Light, Glowing, Radiant (G3022, Leukos)) – Judges 5:10; 2 Chronicles 5:12; “scatters kings” (Psalms 68:11-12,14); Ecclesiastes 9:8; Isaiah 1:18; Daniel 7:9, 11:35, 12:10; Matthew 17:2, 28:3; Mark 9:3, 16:5; Luke 9:29; John 20:12; Acts 1:10; Revelation 1:14, 2:17, 3:4-5,18, 4:4, 6:11, 7:9,13,14, 14:14, 15:6, 19:8,11,14, 20:11; John 4:35 (ripe for harvest).

    Red – (Blood, War, Battle, Sin, Sacrifice, Anger, Fiery, Wine, Scarlet, colour of the Dragon) – (meaning fiery) – God is with us through the fiery trials and persectuions.
    Red Horses – Zechariah 1:7-17, 6:1-8, 10:3

    “take away peace from the earth” - (the wicked/heathen were at 'rest', not troubled in conscience about their sins, living in sin) Zechariah 1:11,15,21, 6:8; Matthew 10:34-40, 24:7-10; Luke 11:51-53

    There is no peace to the wicked – Isaiah 48:22, 57:21, 59:8; Jeremiah 16:5; Ezekiel 7:25, 13:10; Romans 3:7.

    Peace (Gospel) – Psalms 29:11, 85:8, 120:7; Isaiah 9:6, 27:5; Jeremiah 29:11; Ezekiel 37:26; Haggai 2:9; Zechariah 9:10; Malachi 2:5; Luke 1:79, 2:14, 14:32, 19:38, 24:36; John 14:27, 16:33, 20:19,21; Acts 10:36; Romans 10:15; Ephesians 2:17.

    “Great Sword” - (G3162; Machaira); Isaiah 27:1; see also Matthew 10:34, 26:47,51-52,55; Mark 14:43,47-48; Luke 21:24, 22:36,38,49,52; John 18:10-11; Acts 12:2, 16:27; Romans 8:35, 13:4; Ephesians 6:17; Hebrews 11:343,37; Revelation 6:4, 13:10,14. Hebrews 4:12 seems to be the exception, while the rest speak of persecution, and sword of the state.

    Black (opposite of White, thus Impure, Darkness, Evil, Night, Mourning (Sackcloth), Sadness, Sorrow and Burnt) – John 3:19; Joel 2:6; Nahum 2:10; Lamentations 5:10 (Famine); Job 30:30-31; Jeremiah 4:28 (Sadness); though our Sadness will be turned into Joy in the Morning.

    Balances (Scales of Worth, of the Sanctuary) – Leviticus 19:36; job 6:2; Ezekiel 45:10; Daniel 5:27 (Deceitful balances – Hosea 12:7; Amos 8:5; Micah 6:11), for weighing and dividing – Ezekiel 5:1; Jeremiah 32:10 (Justice/Mercy)
    • Wheat – Psalms 81:16, 147:1-15 (Chaff to the Wheat; John 12:24)
    • Barley – 2 Kings 7:1; Ruth 2:23; Job 31:40; Joel 1:11; see also 2 Chronicles 2:10,15) (the Barley was more common than the Wheat, easier to obtain, a more coarse grain, not as fine as What, and there were two differing harvests, 1 for Barley, and 1 for Wheat)
    • Oil – (Holy Ghost/Grace/Character) Matthew 25
    • Wine – (Doctrine/Life)
    • No Rain (Why there is a shortage of Wheat/Barely, Whore's Forehead, etc)
    • Penny – Matthew 20:2,10,13 (Why spend money for that which is not Bread; Isaiah 55:2)

    Pale (G5515; Chloros) (Ashen, Without Life, Greenish (like gangrene (lack of blood)), Sickly unto Death; thus lacking the Holy Ghost (Spirit, for without the Spirit the body dies), and the Life of Christ), see also the so-called LXX Isaiah 15:6; 2 Kings 19:26. Thus War led to Famine, lead to Pestilence.

    “name” - “Death” - Character – 1 Samuel 25:25; Proverbs 22:1; Ecclesiastes 7:1

    “Death” - Romans 5:14; 1 Corinthians 15:25; Isaiah 28:15; Jeremiah 9:21, 18:21; James 5:20; Psalms 9:17; Revelation 1:18; Isaiah 25:8; Habakkuk 2:5; Hosea 13:14; 1 Kings 2:6; Exodus 10:17; Leviticus 26:25; Deuteronomy 28:21.

    kill with “Death” = Pestilences – Leviticus 26:21-26; Ezekiel 14:21, see also so-called LXX uses.

    The mental picture is of a Rider (Death) pulling a Death Wagon filled with bodies/persons that died (Follow after, see Daniel 11:43; Revelation 13:3, for comparisons)

    kill with “Beasts” (Nations, State powers) - Jeremiah 15:2-3, 24:10, 29:17-18; Ezekiel 5:12,17, 14:21, see also those passages which speak of Nations/State powers as Beasts, Daniel 7 & 8, Revelation 12 & 13 & 17, etc.
     
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    Look Synodal translation of the Bible. There is not red horse, but exactly Trump's hair color.
     
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    Look Synodal translation of the Bible. There is not red horse, but exactly Trump's hair color.
     
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