cambridge79
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Basically YHWH, God and Allah are the same entity who just revealed himself multiple times ( in different times ) trough his prophets.
my simple question is: why? why 3 times, with 3 different names, giving birth to 3 different books in the very same region of the planet?
Wasn't he able ( in his perfection ) to say everything he had to say the first time?
Wasn't it more useful to reach other places instead of 3 times more or less in the same area?
it looks incredibly unefficient, incredibly unfair and incredibly lacking the insight of the very same people he himself created and therefore should know.
if i were god and my goal was to give my word to people on earth and make them aware that i'm there, and i had the chance to show myself only three times, why not one in middle east, one in the americas and one in australia? Why deny the americans the chance to know me until 1492, and the australian the chance to know me until the 19th century?
I mean, suppose Colombo reaches america in 1492 and he find them praying the same god and reading the same book. Now that would be impressive ( it also would lead to a less bloody confrontation between the two civilizations ) .
That eventuality would lead even a person like me to think "well, that book must be really given by god if two cultures that never met each others both follow it". but obviously it didn't happen that way.
therefore put in front of the two possible explanations:
RATIONAL EXPLANATION: concept of monotheistic god emerged in the cultures in middle east. it evolved trough time since YHWH was concieved by the kingdom of juda , than inside the yhwh cult that derived, trough the centuries currents emerged and one of those gave birth to the concepts at the core of christianity, probably in open contrast with the former just like for example calvinist were born in contrast to catholics.
The same very concept were adopted 500 year later by the saudi elites that heard about them, adapted them to arabic culture that was still pagan and was lacking unity and under a religious reform imposed by them on their people, consolidating their power in the process and giving birth to the caliphates that than had the power to become a major player in mediterranean history ( what better than being entitled by god himself ? ) .
RELIGIOUS EXPLANATION: God revealed himself 3 times to 3 cultures that were already in contact with one another and that could have easily spread his name around, creating quite some confusion and the risk that those cultures could end up fighting one another about who loves him the most ( as it actually happened multiple times ). People from the americas or australia or tropical islands meanwhile had no chance to know him cause he never revealed to them apparently not caring much about their souls, till men of faith reached them ( with the risk for example that buddisth or taoist reached them first )
between the two, why on earth should i pick the second above the first?
my simple question is: why? why 3 times, with 3 different names, giving birth to 3 different books in the very same region of the planet?
Wasn't he able ( in his perfection ) to say everything he had to say the first time?
Wasn't it more useful to reach other places instead of 3 times more or less in the same area?
it looks incredibly unefficient, incredibly unfair and incredibly lacking the insight of the very same people he himself created and therefore should know.
if i were god and my goal was to give my word to people on earth and make them aware that i'm there, and i had the chance to show myself only three times, why not one in middle east, one in the americas and one in australia? Why deny the americans the chance to know me until 1492, and the australian the chance to know me until the 19th century?
I mean, suppose Colombo reaches america in 1492 and he find them praying the same god and reading the same book. Now that would be impressive ( it also would lead to a less bloody confrontation between the two civilizations ) .
That eventuality would lead even a person like me to think "well, that book must be really given by god if two cultures that never met each others both follow it". but obviously it didn't happen that way.
therefore put in front of the two possible explanations:
RATIONAL EXPLANATION: concept of monotheistic god emerged in the cultures in middle east. it evolved trough time since YHWH was concieved by the kingdom of juda , than inside the yhwh cult that derived, trough the centuries currents emerged and one of those gave birth to the concepts at the core of christianity, probably in open contrast with the former just like for example calvinist were born in contrast to catholics.
The same very concept were adopted 500 year later by the saudi elites that heard about them, adapted them to arabic culture that was still pagan and was lacking unity and under a religious reform imposed by them on their people, consolidating their power in the process and giving birth to the caliphates that than had the power to become a major player in mediterranean history ( what better than being entitled by god himself ? ) .
RELIGIOUS EXPLANATION: God revealed himself 3 times to 3 cultures that were already in contact with one another and that could have easily spread his name around, creating quite some confusion and the risk that those cultures could end up fighting one another about who loves him the most ( as it actually happened multiple times ). People from the americas or australia or tropical islands meanwhile had no chance to know him cause he never revealed to them apparently not caring much about their souls, till men of faith reached them ( with the risk for example that buddisth or taoist reached them first )
between the two, why on earth should i pick the second above the first?
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