Hong Xiuquan
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Why does it have to be?
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The whys of Hell and Jesus.
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Why does it have to be?
Yes, but that is a long discussion. I would recommend googling "Reform Judaism" ...
Hong Xiuquan
Member
It irritates me when Christians think that they're cool.
It irritates me when I see this. You are a Christian yourself. The comment doesn't seem logical coming from a Christian.
It irritates me when I see this. You are a Christian yourself. The comment doesn't seem logical coming from a Christian.
Hong Xiuquan
Member
If you are too tired it's ok. How about you just mention one or two main ones....for the sake of conversation?
Hong Xiuquan
Member
The key word there is "may". That means that the Catholic church is still leaving it up to God to make the final decision. This is much the same as the Protestant position.
How about you google the topic ... for the sake of education?
Hong Xiuquan
Member
I'm not a Catholic but I would interpret that to mean "moved by God", or "prompted by God in your spirit".
Hong Xiuquan
Member
For you it's not impressive. But it once was, as you mentioned that you were a Christian before. What inspired you to become a Christian in the first place? Jesus did die and he has the scars to prove it.
Hong Xiuquan
Member
You are a person of very few words...usually just one sentence. Can you share with us something useful? We have shared a lot with you, which you enjoy reading. I'd like you to share your religious experience with us.....or are you scared to do so?
Anyone who agrees, please add a "like".
Hong Xiuquan
Member
Yes some of the great civilizations have spun from it in our view. In the case of Buddhism it was the Asokan empire... Christianity also united much of the Roman world and preserved civilization...Islam is a more recent case where civilization advanced. More ancient examples are possible...
Do I need to become a Bahai? Why would someone want to convert to your religion? (said in a polite, positive way).
Yes, but He did not stay dead long, did He? So what sort of sacrifice was that?
Ciao
- viole
Hong Xiuquan
Member
To be fair....it would be more correct to say "some minority schools in Islam have regressed". I live in Indonesia. Most of my workmates and neighbors are good citizens or humanitarians.
Hong Xiuquan
Member
It was still a sacrifice. Why does he have to remain dead? If he didn't rise again, then he wouldn't be God, would he? I think, deep down, you are still interested in religion. Were you bitter when you first left? Many people who leave a religion remain bitter their whole lives.
I am not, or was, bitter at all. There is no reason for me to be bitter, considering that I come from a country where virtually everybody is an atheist.
I just find it absurd that people (I include my past self here) can take seriously the claims of sacrifice when applied to the most powerful being of the Universe.
A being who, allegedly, knew perfectly well that He will return on the third day, since He informed the disciples about it.
As I said, it would be like paying a million for somebody's debt, knowing that you will get it back after the weekend.
Everybody can do that. It is not a big deal, really.
Ciao
- viole
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angellous_evangellous
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This is why RF should have a basic IQ test for membership.
Like matching shapes or something.
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angellous_evangellous
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This made me chuckle.
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angellous_evangellous
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(I was being sarcastic. Seriously.)
Tumah
Veteran Member
For me, that's 5:22. I've known that the chapters are not exactly the same. I assume because we adapted the chapters to an earlier way of splitting the chapters that we already had. But I really don't know.
Anyways, if you look at the previous verse and put the two together, you'll notice that the verse is giving a list of things. But its not for those things one brings a sacrifice, its for the next part "and he swore falsely in any of these things, that a man sins." Basically, if (for example) a person was suspected of let's say stealing, they had the option to swear on G-d's Name that they didn't steal. If that swear was a false swear, then he would have to bring a sacrifice. So the verse is saying, if someone were to swear falsely on any of the things that people swear on [such as those listed above], he would be required to bring a sacrifice.
The sin offerings were only brought to atone for a sins whose penalty was to be cut off. According to our Talmud, even with repentance, sins of that category are not completely removed until one suffers, as opposed to other sins, where repentance and the Day of Atonement are enough. So, I understand that when the Temple was standing, one could avoid that suffering, if it was unintentional, by bringing the sacrifice.
outhouse
Atheistically
Your questions all indicate you don't understand the evolution of the concepts, and are using the current developed dogma applied to out of context biblical quotes.