The Value of Life

[arthra]

It is absolutely more expensive to execute someone in the US than to imprison them for life. Figures from the Utah Legislative Fiscal Analyst's Office show it costs Utah an additional $1.6 million per inmate from trial to execution compared to life-without-parole cases

You have to take in to account the cost of the review and appeals process which is mandatory to avoid executing innocent people (which doesn't work). There is the additional "cost" of further clogging up the legal system.

David.. Yes I know.. See my reply in post 27 above

That too can vary... Yes appeals can be expensive. There was an article on the cost of life without parole a few years ago from my area:

http://www.mountain-news.com/news/crime_log/article_4f1e45f8-5630-11e0-93da-001cc4c002e0.html

There may well be a need for reform in the Judicial system and each state has there own issues...

 

[metis]

All those years with friend arthra on another forum that will remain nameless and all his posts here and you don't recall that he is Baha'i?

He is probably too kind to rub it in, but you know me..... You do know me, don't you? (The rabbi smiled to himself. The new year had just begun and he already had something to repent of next year!)

I didn't know if it was the same "arthra", and I didn't check his description on the side. Thanks for the heads-up.

 

[metis]

Thanks for your response Metis.. Yes googled I did and found the following:

"Aggregating over all of our estimates, it is entirely unclear even whether the preponderance of evidence suggests that the death penalty causes more or less murder."

and

"the committee recommends that these studies not be used to inform deliberations requiring judgments about the effect of the death penalty on homicide. Consequently, claims that research demonstrates that capital punishment decreases or increases the homicide rate by a specified amount or has no effect on the homicide rate should not influence policy judgments about capital punishment." (emphasis added)

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/discussion-recent-deterrence-studies

So the stats are not as much a guide as you seem to suggest...It's debatable.

I think your original point was



That too can vary... Yes appeals can be expensive. There was an article on the cost of life without parole a few years ago from my area:

http://www.mountain-news.com/news/crime_log/article_4f1e45f8-5630-11e0-93da-001cc4c002e0.html

There may well bea need for reform in the Judicial system and each state has there own issues...

There's numerous links that you can find here: https://www.google.com/webhp?source...e=UTF-8#q=does capital punishment deter crime

As for cost: "Cases without the death penalty cost $740,000, while cases where thedeath penalty is sought cost $1.26 million." You can find that and more here: https://www.google.com/webhp?source...-8#q=is the death penalty more cost effective

Sorry that I didn't recognize who you are, and I have always respected you, including when we may disagree. Now,
rabbiO, otoh,...

 

[viole]

Here's a couple of notions I've thought about regarding.. capital punishment.

Capital punishment can serve as a deterrence to murdering people...

Cutting them to pieces very slowly could be even more effective. If deterrence is your main target.

Why should society provide for someone the rest of their lives..See that they are fed, housed and have proper medical care..(conjugal visits?) when they themselves had no regard for their victims?

Because justice does not equal retribution. Otherwise we should let people starve in prison if they are there because of stealing food.

Facing the punishment in this world for what they've done may mitigate what they'll face in the hereafter for their behaviours.

so, you are doing them a favor?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Unveiled Artist]

 

[metis]

Cutting them to pieces very slowly could be even more effective. If deterrence is your main target.

Worse yet is forcing them to talk to an insurance salesman.

 

[arthra]

Sorry that I didn't recognize who you are, and I have always respected you, including when we may disagree. Now,
rabbiO, otoh,...

No problemo Metis! I respect you as well..

A scary case indeed..

See:

http://news.yahoo.com/california-teen-killed-feel-death-sentenced-life-211034872.html