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The Spirit that Raised Jesus

Thief

Rogue Theologian
I believe equality with God was what Satan wanted.
well I do believe in hierarchy
but I suspect it lays to ability

God would of course be top of the line
all others follow to the best of their ability

it's not a matter of a crown and obedience to it

it's a matter of will and the imposition of it

at some point ....the will of God prevails
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
I do not see the word heaven in Luke 22:28. God's kingdom will be on earth. Jesus plainly said he was cpming back to earth. Nothing in the Bible promises heaven to anyone.
can you grasp it?



And he said to them, “Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God after it has come with power.”

and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.”


can you grasp it?
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
well I do believe in hierarchy
but I suspect it lays to ability

God would of course be top of the line
all others follow to the best of their ability

it's not a matter of a crown and obedience to it

it's a matter of will and the imposition of it

at some point ....the will of God prevails

God is omnipresent.


Jeremiah 23:24
"Can a man hide himself in hiding places So I do not see him?" declares the LORD "Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?" declares the LORD.


there is nothing aside(outside/external) to god
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
God is omnipresent.


Jeremiah 23:24
"Can a man hide himself in hiding places So I do not see him?" declares the LORD "Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?" declares the LORD.


there is nothing aside(outside/external) to god
I do not confuse omnipotent with omnipresent
there is of course...proximity

the devil is part of your belief?
and where exactly does he fit in?
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
I do not confuse omnipotent with omnipresent
there is of course...proximity

the devil is part of your belief?
and where exactly does he fit in?

there are two paths available. service to self or service to other as self.


both are an option, but only one will take you to the octave. the other will require back tracking and reformation. one exists everywhere, the other exists apart from everything aside from self.


Therefore, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to you, O earth and sea, for the devil has come down to you in great wrath, because he knows that his time is short!”

Can earth exist apart from heaven? Can self exist exclusively apart from other?


Where shall I go from your Spirit? Or where shall I flee from your presence?
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
there are two paths available. service to self or service to other as self.


both are an option, but only one will take you to the octave. the other will require back tracking and reformation. one exists everywhere, the other exists apart from everything aside from self.


Therefore, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to you, O earth and sea, for the devil has come down to you in great wrath, because he knows that his time is short!”

Can earth exist apart from heaven? Can self exist exclusively apart from other?


Where shall I go from your Spirit? Or where shall I flee from your presence?
i suspect we are on the same page.....
you just like more words
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
i suspect we are on the same page.....
you just like more words


i like using words that tweek the view point a bit. the problem is that the selfish, vs the more selfless, realize you can't get to heaven by creating suffering, or ignoring it. you get there by recognizing self as the good samaritan and the mugged man.
 
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