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The Rise of Dualism

Sirona

Hindu Wannabe
You probably should define what you mean by dualism. AFAIK, in Abrahamic religions, dualism means God vs. the devil. In Hinduism, it is the belief that God and the soul are two different entities, in opposition to advaita or atman = Brahman.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
You probably should define what you mean by dualism. AFAIK, in Abrahamic religions, dualism means God vs. the devil. In Hinduism, it is the belief that God and the soul are two different entities, in opposition to advaita or atman = Brahman.
if brahman is pure consciousness then what is unconsciousness

dualism is knowing vs ignorance?
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
dualism is reflected in every aspect of creation. It does not arise. It is.
this is untrue. the absolute doesn't have an external contrast to itself, so dualism only exists as the illusion of form in contrast to another form, or the unformed.

so in recreating there may appear to be contrast but in reality that which is created is simply recycled into something else. the form isn't permanent, the action is.


so the problem is, " are you going to focus on the form; which is temporal, or the action, which is permanent?"


consciousness and love are not respecter's/exclusive to forms
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
this is untrue.
Au contraire, mon frere
the absolute doesn't have an external contrast to itself,
Genesis 1:2

The spirit of God was over the surface of the water. Dualism.

But from a scientific perspective, so much technology and medicine is based on polarities. Without polarity, your computer simply wouldn't work. Not to mention intermolecular forces that render your desk or table rigid. The force of friction that allows one to walk is a form of dualism. Biochemical reactions that render food into energy requires osmosis. It all has a polar/dual nature.

It cannot be denied and still be taken seriously.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Au contraire, mon frere

Genesis 1:2

The spirit of God was over the surface of the water. Dualism.

But from a scientific perspective, so much technology and medicine is based on polarities. Without polarity, your computer simply wouldn't work. Not to mention intermolecular forces that render your desk or table rigid. The force of friction that allows one to walk is a form of dualism. Biochemical reactions that render food into energy requires osmosis. It all has a polar/dual nature.

It cannot be denied and still be taken seriously.
no the spirit of god is still god and the waters are still god. the bible states that nothing exists apart from god. there is no otherness
.
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
no the spirit of god is still god and the waters are still god. the bible states that nothing exists apart from god. there is no otherness
.
If that was true then the verse in Genesis would have been written differently.

For an other example ( pun intended :) )

Exodus 20:3. Other gods exist according to this verse.

There is otherness inherent both from a biblical perspective, in nature, and in science.

Perhaps let's agree to disagree? The two of us can have dual points of view, right? Of course we can, because dualism exists. It doesn't arise from ignorance. It simply is.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
If that was true then the verse in Genesis would have been written differently.

For an other example ( pun intended :) )

Exodus 20:3. Other gods exist according to this verse.

There is otherness inherent both from a biblical perspective, in nature, and in science.

Perhaps let's agree to disagree? The two of us can have dual points of view, right?
the elohim are derived from el, they are not separate from it. like a corpuscle in the body.
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
the elohim are derived from el, they are not separate from it. like a corpuscle in the body.
the absolute is just another link in an infinite chain

the absolute is a form, part of the illusion
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
the absolute is just another link in an infinite chain

the absolute is a form, part of the illusion
the form is the problem. people fixate on the form; which is temporal but matter and consciousness.
 
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