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The Left Hand Path and Marriage

Bishka

Veteran Member
Questions for y'all

Does either family or the woman or man pay a dowry?

Is intermarriage between faiths allowed?

Age allowed to marry?

Engagements?

Is Pre-Martial Sex Allowed?

How is Marriage defined (man and man, woman and woman, man and woman)?

Is marriage required?

Is divorce okay?
 

Ðanisty

Well-Known Member
beckysoup61 said:
Questions for y'all

Does either family or the woman or man pay a dowry?

Is intermarriage between faiths allowed?

Age allowed to marry?

Engagements?

Is Pre-Martial Sex Allowed?

How is Marriage defined (man and man, woman and woman, man and woman)?

Is marriage required?

Is divorce okay?
Well, I can't really say that we have any rules that I know of. Of course, you're addressing this to the LHP as a whole, so it may be that particular sects have rules. I honestly don't have an answer for that. I can tell you how I feel though.

Honestly, it never occured to me that anybody pays a dowry anymore. It seems kind of like being bought if you ask me. I'm Luciferian and my husband isn't even a practitioner of the LHP, so obviously that doesn't matter to me. It may matter to individual people though. As far as age goes, I'm pretty sure most LHPers just follow the laws of the land. My husband and I were engaged for about 6 months before we got married. We'd been dating for a total of a year and 4 months. Premarital sex isn't usually questioned for LHPers...it's pretty much a given. Most LHP "religions" recognize man as carnal and acknowledge that sex is completely normal. I'm sure you'll find some LHP groups that are anti-homosexual. You can find anti-homosexuals groups within any belief system. Personally, I'm bisexual and I don't pretend to define marriage. Marriage isn't required and divorce is perfectly fine. I don't believe anybody should stay in a miserable situation. If people aren't happy, they should have the ability to find happiness elsewhere.
 

FunIsBad

New Member
These questions all requre common sense answers.

There is no need for a dowry just a celibration.

Faith is unimportant there should just be a life long commitment between the couple

Age to marry is difficult to quantify. I would suggest 18 with a at least 2 year relationship to ensure all commitments are fully understood.

Pre marital sex is fine as long as it is mutual and responsibility is shared. I do not have many beliefs but abortion is the most disgusting and immoral practice today.

Marriage is defined as two people who love each other and want to make public that they intend to spend the rest of thier lives together, regardless of religion, sexual orientation or what others may think

Divorce should not be frowned upon everyone makes mistakes. The most important consideration if it comes down to this, should be the wellfare and security of any children.
 

Bishka

Veteran Member
FunIsBad said:
These questions all requre common sense answers.

There is no need for a dowry just a celibration.

Faith is unimportant there should just be a life long commitment between the couple

Age to marry is difficult to quantify. I would suggest 18 with a at least 2 year relationship to ensure all commitments are fully understood.

Pre marital sex is fine as long as it is mutual and responsibility is shared. I do not have many beliefs but abortion is the most disgusting and immoral practice today.

Marriage is defined as two people who love each other and want to make public that they intend to spend the rest of thier lives together, regardless of religion, sexual orientation or what others may think

Divorce should not be frowned upon everyone makes mistakes. The most important consideration if it comes down to this, should be the wellfare and security of any children.

One, are you a member of the LHP? Two, I wanted personal answers.
 

Bishka

Veteran Member
FunIsBad said:
And the Left hand path is? I am English, does it mean fudge packer? I am not that way out however having overcome some difficulties see it as a no issue to be honest!!


Fudge packer? I'm a bit naive on slang. LHP is Lucifieranians, Satanists, etc.
 
I think marrages were cut , along time ago , being regrettable , but I have seen it being intanated , again , witch is ok , it is all the individuals go of it , it seems we let others traditions come in and screw with out emotions , the ultamate ritual of LOVE , I could skip it , and hit the honeymoon , even if i am married , I dont own them , we all have our own individual choices , thats what it boils down too , I do love to pet the hot kitty , either you love it , or you dont , no need for some witness to tell me I do .. Joey
 

Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
Questions for y'all

Is intermarriage between faiths allowed?

Age allowed to marry?

Engagements?

Is Pre-Martial Sex Allowed?

How is Marriage defined (man and man, woman and woman, man and woman)?

Is marriage required?

Is divorce okay?

Question 1
Yes. Some Setians are married to Satanists, others are even married to Christians.

Question 2
We comply with the laws.

Question 3
Some choose not to get married. But, some follow tradition; get engaged and then get married.

Question 4
Is pre-martial sex allowed? Yes.

Question 5
Heterosexual and homosexual marriages are allowed.

Questions 6
No.

Question 7
Yes. Divorce is ok.

Concerning abortion. There are some of us who are pro-life and some who are pro-choice. It depends on the individuals world view, and personal morals. Politically, some of us are conservative others are liberal. I am very conservative on economic issues, but on social issues I am very liberal.

/Adramelek\
 
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Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
I think it should also be noted that the Temple of Set is a legally recognized Satanic church by the U.S. government. Being such, I think members of the Priesthood of Set are able to obtain licenses to perform legal marriages. I could be wrong on this. A member of the Priesthood would be more qualified to answer that.

/Adramelek\
 
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Kenaz

I Am
Easiest answer to all of these in my opinion. Do What Thou Wilt. We as individuals are the sole source of our morals, views, beliefs, and are responsible for the consequences of these actions subsequent. There is no higher authority that justifies our actions or guides us, save for our-selves.
 
you have to ask the new back pope , but , as an individulist , Id say yes to devorce , if your your own god , you make the rule , these so called good people (Fath based groups) Credit Satanism , with stuff like child porn , cutting the heads off cats ,and other BS , Satan has never had a chance to even tell his Story , you were just dicktasted to believe what they say 100%
sure Satanism Stands alone , but you get do make your own choices , and be King , I like that ,
Im not much attention to others lives , im too busy have a good time .. and could care less , how others feel ... its not for everyone , Coffee? joey
 

Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
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Easiest answer to all of these in my opinion. Do What Thou Wilt. We as individuals are the sole source of our morals, views, beliefs, and are responsible for the consequences of these actions subsequent. There is no higher authority that justifies our actions or guides us, save for our-selves.

Bravo JWG!:) Very well said!

/Adramelek\
 
i like to think of myself as master, slave, and in that i didnt need any spritual help , i was complete , and strong in that department, youll never get a devorice out of me , from myself , and everyones farts stink but yours , people are greedy , and worse than dogs, when it comes to trust , you have yourself standing .. joey
 
Im not sorry , but I dont Believe in Marrage , it should have never been envinted, like god , they should be abloished ,its all comercial , and some one has their hand out , (their right hand )
two poeple can live together, and in the same respect , have their mutuall agreements , as to how to conduct them selves, some may be swingers? some may be gay ? some may like to be on a one on one term . have to ask the questions , and see if it is something your in for , but living together, like marrage , is fine , especially when haveing children , i believe they need to have both parents who made them round , to make things healthy , in the beginning years . I had been delt a good hand , as a child , but just dont like being deal cards from others .. A good man , or woman has his her own money .. and separate checks please , It would be nice if she had her own place also , so too me , relationships , are a bit diffrent , but i love just like anyother , I just dont plain to take much pollution , in my enviroment .. not many will want to go it my way , I dont wish to have children around , at all , she may ? have to make love first then talk .. haa
Joey
 
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blackout

Violet.
Legal marriages, I'm not a fan of.

as well,
Lifetime promises made today?
not pragmatic.

However I can promise honesty,
respect and communication
on a daily basis.
Of course I expect the same in return.
I can promise to love and respect my True Self
as well as my partner's True Self.
If the True Selves of that partnership continue
in dynamic alignment
so that it is the CHOICE AND DESIRE
of both (or all-- in the case of poly)
to remain together,
that IS the marriage.
If at any point it is truly necessary/best to go different ways,
so then, that's how it has to be.

While neither traditional nor legal marriage
floats my boat personally,
I do like the idea of "ammended" ceremonies/rites.
I can see the appeal,
though nothing is for everyone.

Those of the LHP do as they are personally inspired.
Not as "it is done" around them.
(unless of course that is what they are themSelves personally inspired to do)

The way of the LHP really has no rules.
It's wide open, and I like it that way.
 
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Daelach

Setian
my personal view as Setian:

I do not care about how others choose to live. Let it be asexual, monogamy, polygamy, hetero, homo or whatever - it is everyone's choice. Since I myself am a hetero man, my obvious choice is a woman.

I do not see a need for a dowry; not nowadays. Once, it was OK for the man to pay because he took the labour force of the woman away from her parent's farm when she moved to his farm. But since the economic circumstances have changed, no dowry is necessary anymore.

Marriage between faiths.. well, I would not want this because I have wanted a partner to share a common way. If "faith" is not just something you practice on sundays, but you put your life's meaning into, then how could someone thinking totally differently really understand you? Understanding, and trust coming from understanding, is the foundation of love. You can have sex without understanding, but I failed to find love without a deep understanding, without sharing so much more than just the bed.

I have been engaged before marriage mainly because this offers small, but nice legal advantages where I live. E.g. that if one of is gets accused, the partner cannot be forced to witness against the other one, and this holds also for the rest of both families.

This holds even more for marriage - it comprises not only the right to refuse to witness mentioned above. The employment centre cannot force one of the partners to move to another city for getting employed as long as the partner still has work because in Germany, marriage is under the explicit protection of the constitution. And if one of us has an accident and is in intensive care, the doctors cannot refuse access to the other one. If then, in coma state, it gets so ill that healing is improbable, the healthy partner can assume full responsibility, including the right to have the machines switched off. Since trust is our basis, this feature is something we desire. Not because we entrust each one's life to each other - but each one's death. And finally, we pay less income tax. Of course, each of us has the duty to take care of the other in case of necessity, and the state even can oblige us to do so. But we would do that anyway, so that is no drawback.

Pre-marital sex is ok. Pre-martial sex is something I have not yet encountered (-;

Marriage is not required, but it can make sense. This is up to the individual to decide.

Concerning divorce.. it has become so easy nowadays that people do not really reflect whether they really want to share their whole life with the partner. And is has become a very easy "solution". Fleeing instead of solving problems. You see, being enamoured will pass by rather quickly. But this is not love. Nor is sexual attraction love. Basing a relationship on being enamoured or keen on each other almost certainly will have the relationship fail simply because it is not enough for a whole life.

Divorcing, for me, would feel like a major part of me would die. All the memories I only can share with my wife.. because we are the only ones to have lived them. Every object I see around here has memories attached to it, to things we have done. Divorcing is just impossible because she will always be in my mind anyway, and no other could measure up. It has just been the one chance life will offer - if it does so at all. And the main reason I got this chance was that I decided not to be content with anything less than the optimum. If you are content with little, little is all you will get.
 

Valor

Active Member
lmao...like often in nature, and in my case... as soon as we were married i was consumed by my female mate! Not unlike a male mantis. I didn't even get to leave the gazebo...it was messy. Actually, i think my wallet is still in her mouth...lol

To be honest if anyone here wants a LHP oriented marriage, pm me. I'll perform any system of marriage you wish. I'm in the New England area and hold credentials by Law to perform marriages, baptisms and funeral engagements. (travel is not out of the option, however the price is);)

PM me for details. Thank you.
 
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Vasilisa Jade

Formerly Saint Tigeress
I've thought about this quite a bit. I was just being a girl and thinking ahead you know.... planning out my marriage before even being proposed to :p

My current love and I have quite a predicament.

His foster family is hard core southern baptist.

He is ethnically and kinda personally jewish, although he maintains that he is secular... if he were religious he says that he would be jewish... lol

I am lhp.

What in the world are we gonna do?! Ohhh :cover:

I figured we could have a day wedding to appease his foster and biological family. (His bio family isn't that jewish.) You know... inexpensive and small and just for show.

Then on our honeymoon we could have our wedding with our friends and others. I want to go to Jamaica for our honeymoon. What better place than to find a nice witch doctor willing to marry us?! lol. I want a bonfire and body paint. I can see the wedding photos now....

"Who is that in the picture with you guys.... dancing around a fire.... with dreads and a bone through his nose??"

Oh that was our wedding. That was the guy that married us. :D

I found a ring I want too.....

Ohhhhhh.... there are so many! I think maybe this one:

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Or this one:

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I don't know there are so many I like!

Here is the link to them all.

Black Diamond Rings, Black Diamond Solitaire Rings
 
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