LOL well... we can disagree among friends.
Indeed.
I don't think so. Abel sacrificed a lamb... he learned it from someone.
And God did clothe them with skins... doesn't say He materialized it. Blood covenant is more His style as shown throughout scripture.
Did you know that there is not a single reference to Adam or his wife ever making one sacrifice or any admission or remorse for their sin. They knew that what they did could not be forgiven. There was no basis upon which it could even be offered. There was no sinful nature to blame and God never promised them any other life. Their sentence was death....that's it.
Adam was not given a soul, but "became" one with the breath of life. The soul that sinned died. (Ezekiel 18:4) I believe that Adam went back to the dust, just as God said he would.
Job 29:
14 I put on justice, and it clothed me, righteousness as my coat and turban;
Isaiah 59:
17 He puts on righteousness like a coat of armor
Ps 139:
9 May your priests be clothed with your righteousness;
Is 61:For he has clothed me with garments of salvation and arrayed me in a robe of his righteousness,
Seems consistent as a shadow of things to come.
I can see why you might want to make the correlation but it is more than what is stated in scripture. Adam and Eve's garments were not because they were righteous....they were just the opposite. The garments were a symbol of their shame and sin.
The three angels that visited Abraham at Mamre (and the two who continued onto Sodom to rescue Lot, Genesis 18 & 19) were fully clothed humans who ate the meals prepared for them by both Abraham and Lot. They had to materialize those bodies with clothing as nakedness was not something that God's worshippers viewed as modest. (Genesis 9:20-23)
If the angels materialized with clothing, then when they returned to the spirit realm, their clothing would obviously have dematerialized along with their bodies.
No argument here. But disobedience still signifies "I don't have do it God's way because mine is better"
like I said.
I agree.
No, can't go there... they believed in Him who was crucified from the foundation of the world. They taught Abel about the sacrifice of the Lamb of God.
God's servants had very little knowledge of the promised seed who was to come. They did not have knowledge of who the players were in the first prophesy in Genesis 3:15. The unfolding of that sacred mystery was to be revealed gradually over time. Even in the first century, Jesus' disciples did not fully understand what the kingdom was, where it would be set up, and how they would fit into the arrangement. As far as the Jews were concerned, the Kingdom of God was to be established on earth by his Messiah. Not until Pentecost were the details revealed to them by holy spirit.
The sacrifice of the Christ was not required until humans sinned. So if Adam and his wife, (as free agents) had just obeyed their Creator and not partaken of the fruit, Jesus' sacrifice would never have been needed. Adam and his wife would still be here enjoying everlasting life in paradise conditions on earth with all their offspring.
The "founding of the world" was the "cosmos" meaning the world of mankind descended from Adam.When sin entered into the world, then and only then was redemption necessary. God never planned for them to disobey him, but free will and the intelligence to use it wisely, is what made humankind like their Maker.
Can't go there either... For God so love the world - not a select few.
God does love the world, but he is not tied to the human race by sentiment. His justice requires that his children obey him in all things. Those who want to rebel, will be evicted from life. Did God love the world of Noah's day? Does he love the world of today, which is also "filled with violence"? (Matthew 24:37-39)
Christ's sacrifice is offered to all, but not all will qualify to receive it. (Luke 13:24; Matthew 7:13-14)
I believe I do understand.
I was just checking to make sure.....the mechanics of the ransom sacrifice of the Christ are not well understood in the churches. I know that I never knew what it was all about....I was so grateful for someone explaining it to me. Everything makes sense now.