The Gethesemane Myth

[sojourner]

The NAB, a Catholic translation, St. Joseph's edition, is a much better translation than the Christian KJV translation.
Ben

Blood's NRSV is a more reliable translation than the NAB...:yes:

 

[fallingblood]

Logic itself cannot be debated. Only what you think is logical.
Ben

And what you stated was logic is only what you think is logical thus it is up for debate

 

[fallingblood]

The NAB, a Catholic translation, St. Joseph's edition, is a much better translation than the Christian KJV translation.
Ben

Then why did you quote from the KJV? As for the translation I use, the NRSV, it is an interfaith translation. As in, Jewish scholars also participate in the translation.

 

[Ben Masada]

Then why did you quote from the KJV? As for the translation I use, the NRSV, it is an interfaith translation. As in, Jewish scholars also participate in the translation.

Because I usually deal more with Christians. Therefore, I use the KJV, but when it contradicts beyond the supportable level, I go for another translation.
Ben

 

[Ben Masada]

We're not debating logic -- we're debating the validity of your statement. A Hebrew translation is not inherently "better," "more reliable," or "more trustworthy" than any other translation, given the variables involved.

Not true at all. A Hebrew translation as well as the Hebrew interpretation of a Hebrew text is inherently better, more reliable and more trustworthy than the translation or interpretation given by a foreign religion.
Ben

 

[fallingblood]

Because I usually deal more with Christians. Therefore, I use the KJV, but when it contradicts beyond the supportable level, I go for another translation.
Ben

Even though most Christians are moving away from the KJV and to better translations?

 

[fallingblood]

Not true at all. A Hebrew translation as well as the Hebrew interpretation of a Hebrew text is inherently better, more reliable and more trustworthy than the translation or interpretation given by a foreign religion.
Ben

I use a Hebrew translation. Even the Christian translation I use had Jews doing the OT.

More so, I look at the Hebrew interpretation (there isn't just one, as you should know), and base my opinion off that. So both of your points fail.

 

[Ben Masada]

I use a Hebrew translation. Even the Christian translation I use had Jews doing the OT.

More so, I look at the Hebrew interpretation (there isn't just one, as you should know), and base my opinion off that. So both of your points fail.

My points do not fail until you bring up a quotation from the Jewish translation and I compare with the ones I have here. Till then, you are going to hold your rooster from singing on the dung.
Ben

 

[fallingblood]

My points do not fail until you bring up a quotation from the Jewish translation and I compare with the ones I have here. Till then, you are going to hold your rooster from singing on the dung.
Ben

So we are to believe your position based on nothing, yet when we say something, we have to give you the whole world in order to prove what we are saying?

Your points do fail. I'm using a Jewish translation. I look at the Jewish interpretations. So you really hold nothing special, and to claim such is ridiculous. Especially when we aren't even talking about a subject concerning the Hebrew scripture, but actually the Greek NT.

 

[Ben Masada]

So we are to believe your position based on nothing, yet when we say something, we have to give you the whole world in order to prove what we are saying?

Your points do fail. I'm using a Jewish translation. I look at the Jewish interpretations. So you really hold nothing special, and to claim such is ridiculous. Especially when we aren't even talking about a subject concerning the Hebrew scripture, but actually the Greek NT.

The Greek NT uses the Hebrew Scriptures even too much. So, you must quote as I do quite too often.
Ben

 

[fallingblood]

The Greek NT uses the Hebrew Scriptures even too much. So, you must quote as I do quite too often.
Ben

When reading the Greek NT, the Hebrew Scriptures do not effect the reading. It may effect the context, and the background, but not what the NT states. More so, many of the NT writers were not using the Hebrew Scripture as is seen in the actual Hebrew, but the Greek translation of the Scripture.

Really, you have no logical point though in stating that your translation and understanding is better.

 

[sojourner]

Because I usually deal more with Christians. Therefore, I use the KJV, but when it contradicts beyond the supportable level, I go for another translation.
Ben

What does the KJV translation have, particularly, to do with Xians any more than, say, the NRSV?

 

[angellous_evangellous]

The OP is nuttier than rat crap in a pistacio factory.

 

[Ben Masada]

The OP is nuttier than rat crap in a pistacio factory.

Why, because he does not believe the way you do? At least, give him the credit that he has a mind of his own.
Ben

 

[Quagmire]

Why, because he does not believe the way you do?

Well for one thing, because he's speaking about himself in the third person.

At least, give him the credit that he has a mind of his own.
Ben

And one hell of an imagination. :yes:

 

[Ben Masada]

The Greek NT uses the Hebrew Scriptures even too much. So, you must quote as I do quite too often.
Ben

There is no where in amy Hebrew translation that a Jew was born of God with an earthely woman? Only in Greek Mythology. And there is no such a thing in Judaism.

Ben

 

[fallingblood]

There is no where in amy Hebrew translation that a Jew was born of God with an earthely woman? Only in Greek Mythology. And there is no such a thing in Judaism.

Ben

So you're arguing with yourself now?

 

[Ben Masada]

So you're arguing with yourself now?

Good! At least, you won't have to pick up on my posts for an answer.
Ben