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The four main parts or layers of the Christian Bible

Discussion in 'Biblical Debates' started by Marcion, Nov 19, 2019.

  1. Marcion

    Marcion Tantra-Yoga Universalist

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    The Christian Bible is an anthology, a collection of sometimes very diverse scriptures from (four) different cultures.

    As a non-christian I do not feel bound by the dogma that the Christian Bible collection is the "Word of God", just like I don't consider the anthology of the Veda's or the Quoran the Word of God either (or indeed any other religious scriptures).

    It took me some time to learn how to best approach this biblical anthology.
    Over time I learnt or concluded that the Christian Bible consists of four main parts.

    * Jewish sciptures
    * Genuine teachings of Jesus
    (not to be confused with the many Christian pseudo-teachings of Jesus)
    * Christian teachings (earlier ones and later ones)
    * Marcionite gnostic teachings (large parts of the collection of the pseudo-letters of Paul)

    The earlier Christian teachings can be found in the gospel of Mark, the later ones can be found in added parts of the collection of pseudo-letters of Paul, Acts and other letters in the New Testament.

    These four main parts or layers are very different from each other and only became sort of a unity through heavy editing, blurring of contradictions, and adding texts made up especially to create artificial joints meant to convince the readers of unity where there was little before.

    They could not edit the Jewish Scriptures, but they did not hesitate to heavily edit the genuine teachings of Jesus, as well as the Marcionite gnostic teachings before these were allowed to become part of the Christian scriptures.
    Eventhough the Jewish scriptures could themselves not be edited, references made to parts of them in the Christian teachings influenced the interpretation of the relevant Jewish texts in the eyes of believing Christians.

    So whenever I read something from the Christian Bible (usually from the New Testament), I ask myself with which aim it was written, whether it involved editing (influencing) older texts, what the motives of the author were and to which of the four main parts or layers of the Christian Bible it belongs.

    So for me there really speaking are four "testaments", the 'Jewish Testament', the 'Jesus Testament', the 'Marcionite Testament' and the 'Christian Testament'. Although they are no longer all four neatly seperated as they once were. But through clever reconstruction work, the scholarly seperation of these four testaments has once again made their original teachings accessible to all.
     
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    This needs a source to be more complete. Is this guesswork or something from a college or...from where? :)
     
  3. Fool

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    read any elaine pagels' stuff?
     
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  4. Marcion

    Marcion Tantra-Yoga Universalist

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    My main sources were the writings of Hermann Detering:
    Hermann Detering - Wikipedia, books
    https://www.amazon.com/Fabricated-Paul-Early-Christianity-Twilight-ebook/dp/B006XXX04G
    http://www.egodeath.com/FalsifiedPaul/DeteringChapter1.pdf
    Hermann Detering, The Dutch Radical Approach to the Pauline Epistles

    and other publications dealing with the Q-sayings collection including web-sites such as these:

    Behind the Pages of the New Testament

    But also other sources on the origin of the Pauline letters, the new testament gospels, Acts and other texts.

    Yes, many years before I came to grips with the New Testament though.
     
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    I thought the scripture was written by the holy ghost?
     
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