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- Thread starter lordjord
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i think so. its how we are programed
It's a peculiar Western/Middle Eastern notion that religion has much to do with belief. What does a Shinto priest believe in?
what i mean is that as human beings it is in our nature to need something to believe in. scientifically this is how our brains function
Papersock
Lucid Dreamer
Human beings have a stong desire to know and understand things. The need is so strong that if we don't understand something, we make up something to believe about it.
In this way, humans need to believe that we know things, because knowledge is empowering and uncertainty is frightening.
However, I don't think we really need to believe in the supernatural.
Blindinglight
Disciple of Chaos
Sorry.
I find religion to be too narrow to find truth.
I find religion to be too narrow to find truth.
ok yes. i agree. so from this cant we conclude that religion is a product of man and was created becasue of the need to believe and that there isnt some higher being
Dream Angel
Well-Known Member
Im not sure EVERYONE NEEDS something to believe in - what about the atheists, they dont believe in anything? and they dont appear to NEED to? But it also depends what you mean we need to believe in - do you just mean religion or do mean things like believing in yourself, having ambition etc etc?
what im saying is that the reason for religion is due to the need to believe in somethign. believing keeps us sane. you could argue athiest believe in nothing. they still believe. im getting repetative but what im trying to debate is that religion came into exsistence because someone needed something to believe.
If in Dhammapada, Quran, Upanishads and Bible there is the mustard seed that spreads it branch towards the same light, without the need of support (religion), then why would it be that we need religions?
If in all of them seeds it found the same, without needing previously conceived ideas.…..
For me I read religions as God asked me too, I don’t like them and find them childish in comparison with the way I have been thinking since birth….i believe in finding what man thinks and has written about God, yet I don’t ever feel it will find God and so often remember to sit back and be still and trust God (Za-Zen).
Find it nice understanding around the world the same meanings written and given in different colours for each…………….
Yet people spoil it to much with their dogma and now after visiting here and other forums, getting very upset on the whole thing of life….
Read religions since birth in the hopes of helping people, yet peoples are getting more fundamentalist and don’t wish to change from a current concept and admit they maybe wrong…..
Considering allot of these concepts need a logical look at, in terms of reasoning out the basic laws of right and wrong….
it sort of defeats the whole essence of oneness globally, which we all should be doing to follow any of them books properly with the mustard seed in; as part of it’s meaning is Oneness.
If in all of them seeds it found the same, without needing previously conceived ideas.…..
For me I read religions as God asked me too, I don’t like them and find them childish in comparison with the way I have been thinking since birth….i believe in finding what man thinks and has written about God, yet I don’t ever feel it will find God and so often remember to sit back and be still and trust God (Za-Zen).
Find it nice understanding around the world the same meanings written and given in different colours for each…………….
Yet people spoil it to much with their dogma and now after visiting here and other forums, getting very upset on the whole thing of life….
Read religions since birth in the hopes of helping people, yet peoples are getting more fundamentalist and don’t wish to change from a current concept and admit they maybe wrong…..
Considering allot of these concepts need a logical look at, in terms of reasoning out the basic laws of right and wrong….
it sort of defeats the whole essence of oneness globally, which we all should be doing to follow any of them books properly with the mustard seed in; as part of it’s meaning is Oneness.
gnomon
Well-Known Member
Why religion developed will remain in the realm of conjecture. I personally think religion developed as a means of cohesion and control as much as answering cosmological questions. So while humans do possess a need to know religion wasn't necessarily developed to fulfill that need solely and is thus easily replaced as a way of knowing.
Dream Angel
Well-Known Member
"Atheists believe in nothing" - thats an interesting perspective, you could argue that, but then it was flaw your first argument of the reason for religion is the need to believe in something. As athesist believe in something (nothing) but are not religion. So technically, you could say all humans have a need to believe in something, but it is not necessarily religion. It could be belief in their self, with a friend - anything! Yet people still turn to religion. Although there is plenty of other things in the world we could believe in!
Nanda
Polyanna
You guessed it, we're all doing it to be obstinant, while still desperately seeking your approval.
Papersock
Lucid Dreamer
lillitruthseeker
Member
i agree people do like to believe in something - but i like to believe in the human spirit and the power that is inside us all - the will to live and survive that happens despite our religious beliefs
