Temple of Obama

[The Voice of Reason]

I already oppose Obama's Marxist positions.

Can you help me out, here? I'm a little blurry on how Obama is a Marxist. Short of simply linking me to a site that is set up to slur him, or a cheap "copy and paste" attack, could you (personally) spell out just how Obama is a Marxist?

I'm anxiously awaiting your well informed insight.

 

[zippythepinhead]

Do you mean, the same way that people like you fawn over McCain because he is a POW? Or the way you worship at his feet because of the (R) that appears after his name?


Grampa - tell me the story of our saviour, Ron Reagan again. I just love the part where he single handedly saved the free world from those evil Russians.


You are getting a man that has historically been pro-choice, and changed his position (within the last two years) so that he could pander to the social conservatives. You are talking about a man that has repeatedly voted AGAINST our veterans and supporting our troops with anything more than rhetoric. Did you mention the term "windsock"? YouTube - John McCain vs. John McCain


Let's contrast that with John McCains's list of friends - Jack Abramoff, Lord Bush, Ralph Reed, Jack Keating, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and a list of lobbyists that have bought and sold him so many times that he looks like one of those used cars you were talking about.


Apparently you didn't bother to follow the link to the video of McCain trying to complete a thought that I gave you in the other thread. Try this one: YouTube - McCain's Greatest Senior Moments
After watching that, if you'd like to discuss the pauses that Obama makes to reflect on his answers prior to just throwing out a Bushism, let me know.


So far, in this post alone, you have called Obama a used car alesman, a marxist, a socialist, "nothing special", ambiguous, a windsock, an emporer, an egotist, and Porky Pig.
Not that I think you would stoop as low as to commit an ad hominem attack or anything so shallow or specious as that ...
To be honest, Zippy, I think you don't really even understand what half of your talking points mean. You throw "socialist" and "Marxist" out there in about every third post you make. I honestly don't think you even understand what you are saying.


I highly doubt that anyone will ever wish to "turn back the clock" to these halcyon days of the Bush II presidency. Well, other than Dickless Cheney and the neocon puppetmasters ...


I disagree completely. I see you as nothing more than a mouthpiece for whatever pamphlet the Republican party has sent to you in the mail yesterday. Your posts (as I pointed out earlier) are nothing more than ad hominem attacks on the Democrat du jour, with no real substance. In my opinion, it is as if Karl Rove himself is sitting at your keyboard. Come to think of it, Karl Rove would probably be a little more subtle with his smears than you are.

McCain is a liberal Republican who gave us campaign finance reform and also McCain Fiengold. Hardly conservative positions. As for the military. McCain kicks Obama's ***. If Obama wins the presidency he may have command of the military, but not their respect. As for Marxism? Obama is a student of communists like Bill Ayers. He is a socialist. He wants to nationalize health care, raise taxes, redistribute wealth, and restore the Fairness Doctrine to control free speech.

As for your hatred of Bush and Cheney, get over it. They are gone in a few months. I am so sick and tired of libs bringing up Bush, Cheney and Rove the evil one. Get a life and move forward. McCain is no perfection. I would rather have Romney. But thanks to libs cross voting in primaries we have McCain.

As for being a POW, could you survive being beaten within an inch of your life in the Hanoi Hilton? Could you survive the Baton Death March? You are truly a voice of dissent for dissing McCain's war record. Obama has NO RECORD! He is a commie pinko who hangs with terrorists and anti white racisists. Why would I vote for a guy who befriends racists or at least hangs with them? Voice, take some lithium and Xanax and come back when you have some reason to talk about.:areyoucra

 

[angellous_evangellous]

As for your hatred of Bush and Cheney, get over it. They are gone in a few months. I am so sick and tired of libs bringing up Bush, Cheney and Rove the evil one. Get a life and move forward. McCain is no perfection. I would rather have Romney. But thanks to libs cross voting in primaries we have McCain.

Unfortunately, the damage that these lying murderers did while in office will take some time to repair.

Their betrayal of the American people and continuing Republican obstinance should motivate all of us to remember what they are capable of, and remember their failures as good reason to never, ever let it happen again.

 

[zippythepinhead]

Unfortunately, the damage that these lying murderers did while in office will take some time to repair.

Their betrayal of the American people and continuing Republican obstinance should motivate all of us to remember what they are capable of, and remember their failures as good reason to never, ever let it happen again.

Good you start the impeachment of Bush on January 21.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Good you start the impeachment of Bush on January 21.

... about 6 years too late...

 

[Father Heathen]

Can you help me out, here? I'm a little blurry on how Obama is a Marxist. Short of simply linking me to a site that is set up to slur him, or a cheap "copy and paste" attack, could you (personally) spell out just how Obama is a Marxist?

I'm anxiously awaiting your well informed insight.

Easy, anyone not far right is a marxist.

 

[The Voice of Reason]

As for the military. McCain kicks Obama's ***.

... and just a moment ago, you were telling us how you are well informed, and how well versed you are in current events. You might want to read up a little bit, before you continue to make such obviously misinformed statments as the one quoted above.

If Obama wins the presidency he may have command of the military, but not their respect.

You might want to visit this website: Vets for Obama |
Or you might want to read this article: The Associated Press: Iraq veterans endorse Obama
Or you might want to consider the fact that Obama was introduced at the DNC convention by a Navy veteran that is a registered Republican.

Then again, you probably don't want to do any of that, because you might have to actually consider that you don't know what you are talking about.

As for Marxism? Obama is a student of communists like Bill Ayers. He is a socialist. He wants to nationalize health care, raise taxes, redistribute wealth, and restore the Fairness Doctrine to control free speech.

You don't have a clue what you are talking about.

As for your hatred of Bush and Cheney, get over it.

If you don't mind, I think I'll stay with it for a while. In your house, you can tell others what you will and won't tolerate. On this site, you don't have that power. Bush, Cheney, and the rest of the neocons have run this country into the toilet. I would think that, being as well informed as you are, you would see that. I don't know about you, but I take great offense at some ********* like Lord Bush ruining a great country - my country. I think I'll just stay with that a while - with your permission, of course.

They are gone in a few months. I am so sick and tired of libs bringing up Bush, Cheney and Rove the evil one.

Don't you just hate it when your candidate turns out to be an absolute turd sitting in the White House?

McCain is no perfection. I would rather have Romney. But thanks to libs cross voting in primaries we have McCain.

Nothing is ever your fault, is it? It's always the dirty liberals that ruin everything. Get over it and move on (I got that quote from a very well informed person that knows a lot about current events).

As for being a POW, could you survive being beaten within an inch of your life in the Hanoi Hilton?

Well, by definition, I would say I could. If you beat someone within an inch of their life, you are saying that they did not die. I fully respect McCain's efforts as a Navy pilot and a POW. That, however, does not automatically make him a great president.

Could you survive the Baton Death March?

It was the Bataan Death March - not the Baton Death March (unless you are referring to some little known event wherein a lot of drum majors were lost in a terrible tragedy). That also has nothing whatsoever to do with McCain, this thread, or the pursuit of the Presidency - but nice try anyway.

You are truly a voice of dissent for dissing McCain's war record.

Au contraire. I have said on many occassions that I respect his service to our country. You, like many dogmatic social conservatives, are equating his service record with some innate ability to run this country. The mistake is yours, Zippy - not mine.

He is a commie pinko who hangs with terrorists and anti white racisists. Why would I vote for a guy who befriends racists or at least hangs with them?

I do so love it when you compose a post without having to resort to the mindless personal attacks. Oh wait - I haven't seen one of those from you yet. I'm sure one will soon be forthcoming.

Voice, take some lithium and Xanax and come back when you have some reason to talk about.:areyoucra

Excellent. You have now added the personal attacks to those that don't agree with you.

Again, I'll have to remind you that you don't get to make the rules. Unfortunately for you, we all have only your words to judge you by. And at this point, you are looking pretty silly.

Maybe you should take about five years off, and come back in time to vote for Obama in 2012.

 

[Autodidact]

Well, as I said, more on Obama's economic policies if anyone's interested. Now, the big issue, Iraq. For me the issue there is not so much how to get out, but that we never should have gotten in. Invading Iraq was possibly the worst foreign policy in American history. If you're too stupid, or dishonest, or Republican to admit that it was a mistake, you cannot be trusted as President. As for how to get out; that's a tough one. You can't unbreak that egg. The Republicans have managed to screw this up so badly that's it hard to figure out how to unscrew it. However, who do you trust to fix this mess, the guy who tried to warn us of what a bad idea it was, or the morons who got us into it and their supporter--McCain? You've got one candidate who supported the disaster up front (McCain), one who allowed herself to be decieved and terrorized into voting to authorize it, despite being opposed (Clinton) and one who stood up and told us all that it was a bad idea, and we shouldn't do it--Obama.

I do agree with Obama and the people of Iraq that our presence there is now doing more harm than good, and costing us money that we don't have, so it's time to figure out how to withdraw. I disagree with McCain that we should keep bases there for 50 or a hundred years.

 

[zippythepinhead]

... and just a moment ago, you were telling us how you are well informed, and how well versed you are in current events. You might want to read up a little bit, before you continue to make such obviously misinformed statments as the one quoted above.


You might want to visit this website: Vets for Obama |
Or you might want to read this article: The Associated Press: Iraq veterans endorse Obama
Or you might want to consider the fact that Obama was introduced at the DNC convention by a Navy veteran that is a registered Republican.

Then again, you probably don't want to do any of that, because you might have to actually consider that you don't know what you are talking about.


You don't have a clue what you are talking about.


If you don't mind, I think I'll stay with it for a while. In your house, you can tell others what you will and won't tolerate. On this site, you don't have that power. Bush, Cheney, and the rest of the neocons have run this country into the toilet. I would think that, being as well informed as you are, you would see that. I don't know about you, but I take great offense at some ********* like Lord Bush ruining a great country - my country. I think I'll just stay with that a while - with your permission, of course.


Don't you just hate it when your candidate turns out to be an absolute turd sitting in the White House?


Nothing is ever your fault, is it? It's always the dirty liberals that ruin everything. Get over it and move on (I got that quote from a very well informed person that knows a lot about current events).


Well, by definition, I would say I could. If you beat someone within an inch of their life, you are saying that they did not die. I fully respect McCain's efforts as a Navy pilot and a POW. That, however, does not automatically make him a great president.


It was the Bataan Death March - not the Baton Death March (unless you are referring to some little known event wherein a lot of drum majors were lost in a terrible tragedy). That also has nothing whatsoever to do with McCain, this thread, or the pursuit of the Presidency - but nice try anyway.


Au contraire. I have said on many occassions that I respect his service to our country. You, like many dogmatic social conservatives, are equating his service record with some innate ability to run this country. The mistake is yours, Zippy - not mine.



I do so love it when you compose a post without having to resort to the mindless personal attacks. Oh wait - I haven't seen one of those from you yet. I'm sure one will soon be forthcoming.


Excellent. You have now added the personal attacks to those that don't agree with you.

Again, I'll have to remind you that you don't get to make the rules. Unfortunately for you, we all have only your words to judge you by. And at this point, you are looking pretty silly.

Maybe you should take about five years off, and come back in time to vote for Obama in 2012.

Oh gee just give me some peyote. I think I can understand your reasoning if I am in an altered state.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Oh gee just give me some peyote. I think I can understand your reasoning if I am in an altered state.

Something shiney would do nicely.

 

[Faminedynasty]

Obama has NO RECORD! He is a commie pinko who hangs with terrorists and anti white racisists. Why would I vote for a guy who befriends racists or at least hangs with them?

Not to mention he bears the mark of Cain. I kiiiiiiiiiiiid.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

note: YouTube - David Letterman and Senator John McCain

 

[Mister_T]

***MOD POST***

Folks, let's keep the personal comments to ourselves.

Thanks.​

 

[Autodidact]

Hmm, zippy doesn't seem interested in discussing the issues or the candidates position, only casting dumb aspersions on the stage set at Invesco Field. Why might that be, do you suppose?

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Hmm, zippy doesn't seem interested in discussing the issues or the candidates position, only casting dumb aspersions on the stage set at Invesco Field. Why might that be, do you suppose?

He's characterizing Obama as the Messiah, and choosing the anti-Christ.

 

[Jeremy Mason]

Not to mention he bears the mark of Cain. I kiiiiiiiiiiiid.

Henry McKane

YouTube - Who Can It Be Now? Why, it's Henry Kane!

 

[The Voice of Reason]

Oh gee just give me some peyote. I think I can understand your reasoning if I am in an altered state.

Let's stick to one topic at a time, so that you can clearly defend your points.

Let's start with your statement that Obama does not have the respect of the military.

Now, surely you didn't just make a blind, blanket statement, so can you help me understand why the sites that I linked you to exist? Are you saying that these veterans and active members of the armed services don't count? Are their opinions valid or not? Do you simply reject their views because they don't agree with yours?

Try to stay away from the personal attacks (if you can), and address the point that you have thrown out there for us.

 

[Autodidact]

Obama will drive the price of gas up.

As opposed to under Bush?

As for taxes Obama will raise taxes for all people.

This is a lie.

The rich would pay more under Barack Obama's tax plan, and the poor and middle-class would pay less, a nonpartisan analysis finds. Under John McCain's plan, the rich would pay much less than they do now, the poor and middle-class would pay a bit less, and the federal deficit would grow, the study found.

Chicago Sun-Times

Corporations will take up and run out of the country because Obama will raise windfall profits taxes for every company

Lie.

and the companies will not only outsource jobs, but move offshore so that they can avoid taxes.

Like they're not doing now?

As for McCain reinstate the draft? Not necessarily.

And not necessarily not.

Run the country like Enron? Isn't it already run like that under Bush?

Yes.

I already oppose Obama's Marxist positions.

Name one.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Let's stick to one topic at a time, so that you can clearly defend your points.

:biglaugh:

 

[Alceste]

Some 80,000 supporters will see Obama appear from between plywood columns painted off-white, reminiscent of Washington's Capitol building or even the White House, to accept the party's nomination for president.

Ooh, how presumptuous! A presidential candidate evoking images of himself in the federal capital! Screw the economy, my constitutional rights, and the endless, costly, pointless foreign wars - I'm not voting for a man who promotes himself with imagery relevant to his aspirations...