My country is different.In my country, making them chose between the two is illegal as it should be.
You can't force people to keep agreements if you break your end of the deal.
As it should be.
Tom
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My country is different.In my country, making them chose between the two is illegal as it should be.
And I assume their take on the matter is, Go ahead and party all you want, but if you can't make it into work, AGAIN, we have no use for you.I was partying all night, and then was too tired to go to work, so I called off. Again.
...So what if I want to have a good time! Who cares..!?! I should be free to party and call off, it's my life.
My country is different.
You can't force people to keep agreements if you break your end of the deal.
As it should be.
Tom
I'm not even sure it actually happened.
I remember quite clearly when the internet was all in a froth because some MAGA hat wearing teenagers stalked and assaulted a native American elder.
That was bogus. I don't see any more reason to believe that this is actually true.
Tom
That's your lazy thinking.You're simply stating: There was a news story all over the internet that turned out to be false, so that means ANY story I hear about that I don't agree with must ALSO be false.
I would disagree with that as being "queer" is not a choice. It's who they are. Not being allowed to work a job you want to do because of some feature of your body you have no control over, is wholly unfair. They are right to ignore such "rules". And as it said in the article, while such "rules" may be on the book, to choose to enforce them is a dick move. I don't blame them for not disclosing something which frankly is none of their employer's business.No, they don't.
Paul and Michelle are being fired for being in a same sex relationship.
But, more to the point, the school probably has pretty clear policies about teacher's private lives. I'm not saying I agree with the policies, but I'm guessing that Paul and Michelle both agreed to them at some point and are now reniging on their agreements.
Sorry, but being queer doesn't mean you can just ignore your agreements, now that you want both the job and the relationship. Sometimes you have to choose.
Tom
That's your lazy thinking.
I didn't make any claims, except that there's very little information. Certainly not enough to make judgements about the players.
I don't claim to know what happened. The claims don't match such few facts as there are.
And frankly, I think it a tempest in a teapot. Internet SJWs getting their panties in a wad because it's easy and fun. The MAGA hat boys are just another example of that.
Tom
"Last week, two teachers at Kennedy Catholic High School, just outside of Seattle, Washington, were fired due to their same-sex relationships.
It’s not all that surprising. That’s what Catholic schools do because they’re bigoted institutions that believe homosexual acts are “intrinsically disordered.” They have every right to do it too; as a private school, they get to decide what the rules are. Anyone who works for them — or attends the school — is agreeing to those rules.
But students didn’t take the news well. Paul Danforth and Michelle Beattie were popular teachers who obviously did nothing wrong. It didn’t help that the school appears to have lied, telling parents that both teachers “voluntarily resigned.”
Since the firings, students have raised more than $33,000 via GoFundMe to help the teachers. And yesterday, there were two separate protests against the actions of the Catholic Diocese.
The kids are much better humans than the Catholic priests making decisions on their behalf.
In the morning, protesters circled the block where Seattle’s Archdiocese office stands, pausing to chant (“Reinstate, not hate!” and “Separate, church and hate!”) and recite the Lord’s Prayer while holding hands.
Shortly after 10 a.m., Kennedy Catholic students made signs and staged a sit-in that clogged some of the school’s hallways. At 1 p.m., they walked out, meeting a crowd of several hundred people waiting at the bottom of the school’s front steps. They spilled out onto the lawn and spoke into a microphone in front of a banner that read, “Who would Jesus fire? #LoveisLove.” Kids and adults peered out through the school’s open windows.
While some deluded parents can’t believe the school would fire gay teachers in same-sex relationships — one mother, we’re told, knew about the rules but “didn’t expect the school to act on it” — the firings raise a more important point about hypocrisy.
The Catholic school has no problem firing teachers in same-sex relationships, but do they go after divorced and remarried teachers the same way? What about teachers who have (or participate in) an abortion? What about those who “sin” in other ways? As usual, they take homosexuality seriously, but no other “sin” is punished with the same vehemence. If they can’t see the problem, or it doesn’t become public news, they usually don’t bother with it. (Moral of the story: If you’re a Catholic school teacher who has an abortion early in your pregnancy, you can still keep your job.)"
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I just got fired from my job last Thursday. Nobody protested for me... No megaphones, banners or sit-ins in my name. No 'go fund me' page with tens of thousands of dollars either.
And I assume their take on the matter is, Go ahead and party all you want, but if you can't make it into work, AGAIN, we have no use for you.
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If your measure of goodness is the extent to which one accepts the progressive moral paradigm especially in regards to sexual matters then yes, they're better than the Catholic Church. Most lay people (and even a significant portion of the clergy) have accepted the progressive, secular worldview to a lesser or greater extent. But what most people accept is no measure of truth. Christ told us that the truth is hard and most will not accept it. Those who try to live Christian lives, uncompromising on moral truth will be hated. Especially in a culture which has embraced sin as a positive good.The kids are much better humans than the Catholic priests making decisions on their behalf.
They should. Those who remarry without an annulment are in an objective state of mortal sin. Catholic institutions who have teachers living in open mortal sin with no intention of rectifying it commit scandal.The Catholic school has no problem firing teachers in same-sex relationships, but do they go after divorced and remarried teachers the same way?
That depends. There's a difference between an abortion as a past event long renounced and repented of and an abortion procured in full knowledge of its grave matter and in defiance of Catholic moral teaching. Such an abortion incurs automatic excommunication. (Latae Sententiae).What about teachers who have (or participate in) an abortion?
It seems that way only because we live in a culture now obsessed with affirming it. (And pretends to be shocked, shocked and outraged that conservative religious institutions aren't getting on board). Homosexuality has been tolerated in western culture for longer than I have been alive. But the embrace of it as a positive good to be celebrated and affirmed is brand spanking new outside what would have been the dingbat fringe not more than a few decades ago.What about those who “sin” in other ways? As usual, they take homosexuality seriously, but no other “sin” is punished with the same vehemence.
Is it any wonder religion is dying out?
"Last week, two teachers at Kennedy Catholic High School, just outside of Seattle, Washington, were fired due to their same-sex relationships.
It’s not all that surprising. That’s what Catholic schools do because they’re bigoted institutions that believe homosexual acts are “intrinsically disordered.” They have every right to do it too; as a private school, they get to decide what the rules are. Anyone who works for them — or attends the school — is agreeing to those rules.
But students didn’t take the news well. Paul Danforth and Michelle Beattie were popular teachers who obviously did nothing wrong. It didn’t help that the school appears to have lied, telling parents that both teachers “voluntarily resigned.”
Since the firings, students have raised more than $33,000 via GoFundMe to help the teachers. And yesterday, there were two separate protests against the actions of the Catholic Diocese.
The kids are much better humans than the Catholic priests making decisions on their behalf.
In the morning, protesters circled the block where Seattle’s Archdiocese office stands, pausing to chant (“Reinstate, not hate!” and “Separate, church and hate!”) and recite the Lord’s Prayer while holding hands.
Shortly after 10 a.m., Kennedy Catholic students made signs and staged a sit-in that clogged some of the school’s hallways. At 1 p.m., they walked out, meeting a crowd of several hundred people waiting at the bottom of the school’s front steps. They spilled out onto the lawn and spoke into a microphone in front of a banner that read, “Who would Jesus fire? #LoveisLove.” Kids and adults peered out through the school’s open windows.
While some deluded parents can’t believe the school would fire gay teachers in same-sex relationships — one mother, we’re told, knew about the rules but “didn’t expect the school to act on it” — the firings raise a more important point about hypocrisy.
The Catholic school has no problem firing teachers in same-sex relationships, but do they go after divorced and remarried teachers the same way? What about teachers who have (or participate in) an abortion? What about those who “sin” in other ways? As usual, they take homosexuality seriously, but no other “sin” is punished with the same vehemence. If they can’t see the problem, or it doesn’t become public news, they usually don’t bother with it. (Moral of the story: If you’re a Catholic school teacher who has an abortion early in your pregnancy, you can still keep your job.)"
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Is it any wonder religion is dying out?
"Last week, two teachers at Kennedy Catholic High School, just outside of Seattle, Washington, were fired due to their same-sex relationships.
It’s not all that surprising. That’s what Catholic schools do because they’re bigoted institutions that believe homosexual acts are “intrinsically disordered.” They have every right to do it too; as a private school, they get to decide what the rules are. Anyone who works for them — or attends the school — is agreeing to those rules.
But students didn’t take the news well. Paul Danforth and Michelle Beattie were popular teachers who obviously did nothing wrong. It didn’t help that the school appears to have lied, telling parents that both teachers “voluntarily resigned.”
Since the firings, students have raised more than $33,000 via GoFundMe to help the teachers. And yesterday, there were two separate protests against the actions of the Catholic Diocese.
The kids are much better humans than the Catholic priests making decisions on their behalf.
In the morning, protesters circled the block where Seattle’s Archdiocese office stands, pausing to chant (“Reinstate, not hate!” and “Separate, church and hate!”) and recite the Lord’s Prayer while holding hands.
Shortly after 10 a.m., Kennedy Catholic students made signs and staged a sit-in that clogged some of the school’s hallways. At 1 p.m., they walked out, meeting a crowd of several hundred people waiting at the bottom of the school’s front steps. They spilled out onto the lawn and spoke into a microphone in front of a banner that read, “Who would Jesus fire? #LoveisLove.” Kids and adults peered out through the school’s open windows.
While some deluded parents can’t believe the school would fire gay teachers in same-sex relationships — one mother, we’re told, knew about the rules but “didn’t expect the school to act on it” — the firings raise a more important point about hypocrisy.
The Catholic school has no problem firing teachers in same-sex relationships, but do they go after divorced and remarried teachers the same way? What about teachers who have (or participate in) an abortion? What about those who “sin” in other ways? As usual, they take homosexuality seriously, but no other “sin” is punished with the same vehemence. If they can’t see the problem, or it doesn’t become public news, they usually don’t bother with it. (Moral of the story: If you’re a Catholic school teacher who has an abortion early in your pregnancy, you can still keep your job.)"
source
I would disagree with that as being "queer" is not a choice. It's who they are. Not being allowed to work a job you want to do because of some feature of your body you have no control over, is wholly unfair. They are right to ignore such "rules". And as it said in the article, while such "rules" may be on the book, to choose to enforce them is a dick move. I don't blame them for not disclosing something which frankly is none of their employer's business.
As is non-belief; religion is doing ok in Africa and other developing areasYou mean in Europe and parts of North America. Christianity, worldwide, is growing. Islam too.