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Speed of Light and the Age of the Universe

dad

Undefeated
Again . . .

A very unfortunate creative and misguided imagination on your part, and not science. Sounds like the rational of geocentric believers.
Your inability to comprehend that time exists here in reality and in a certain way along with space does not change the fact it does. You can't wave time away and keep only space divested of time.. as one does using stellar parallax!
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Your inability to comprehend that time exists here in reality and in a certain way along with space does not change the fact it does. You can't wave time away and keep only space divested of time.. as one does using stellar parallax!
And dad cannot even do high school level geometry.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Your inability to comprehend that time exists here in reality and in a certain way along with space does not change the fact it does. You can't wave time away and keep only space divested of time.. as one does using stellar parallax!

Again . . .

A very unfortunate creative and misguided imagination on your part, and not science. Sounds like the rational of geocentric believers.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Nevertheless, you cannot wave away time in space. Period.


Again . . .

A very unfortunate creative and misguided imagination on your part, and not science. Sounds like the rational of geocentric believers.

You conveniently choose to ignore the direct measurement of distance in space, but also billions of years of geologic history of the earth by the evidence without going into space, and simply a solar system billions of miles across in .a vast panarama of billions of years of time by direct evidence.
 
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dad

Undefeated
Again . . .

A very unfortunate creative and misguided imagination on your part, and not science. Sounds like the rational of geocentric believers.

You conveniently choose to ignore the direct measurement of distance in space, but also billions of years of geologic history of the earth by the evidence without going into space, and simply a solar system billions of miles across in .a vast panarama of billions of years of time by direct evidence.
There is no direct measure possible as man has been nowhere else. You have imaginary lines drawn that are supposed to represent only space/distance with no time involved. Yet if time is not out there in space as it is here then your lines lose all meaning as far as how much time any light or body or particle would take to move across the universe! Your old ages goose is cooked.

Watching you resort to repeating the same slogans and responses tells us the wind is out of your sails.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
There is no direct measure possible as man has been nowhere else. You have imaginary lines drawn that are supposed to represent only space/distance with no time involved. Yet if time is not out there in space as it is here then your lines lose all meaning as far as how much time any light or body or particle would take to move across the universe! Your old ages goose is cooked.

Watching you resort to repeating the same slogans and responses tells us the wind is out of your sails.

Again . . .

A very unfortunate creative and misguided imagination on your part, and not science. Sounds like the rational of geocentric believers.

You conveniently choose to ignore the direct measurement of distance in space, but also billions of years of geologic history of the earth by the evidence without going into space, and simply a solar system billions of miles across in .a vast panarama of billions of years of time by direct evidence.
 

dad

Undefeated
Again . . .

A very unfortunate creative and misguided imagination on your part, and not science. Sounds like the rational of geocentric believers.

You conveniently choose to ignore the direct measurement of distance in space, but also billions of years of geologic history of the earth by the evidence without going into space, and simply a solar system billions of miles across in .a vast panarama of billions of years of time by direct evidence.
More parroted ramblings that demonstrate your total inability to deal with the questions.

The earth ages are faith based as are the space ages!
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
By the way is the hat in the avatar tin foil based?

No it is a genuine made in China straw hat.

Again . . .

A very unfortunate creative and misguided imagination on your part, and not science. Sounds like the rational of geocentric believers.

You conveniently choose to ignore the direct measurement of distance in space, but also billions of years of geologic history of the earth by the evidence without going into space, and simply a solar system billions of miles across in .a vast panarama of billions of years of time by direct evidence.
 

dad

Undefeated
No it is a genuine made in China straw hat.

Again . . .

A very unfortunate creative and misguided imagination on your part, and not science. Sounds like the rational of geocentric believers.

You conveniently choose to ignore the direct measurement of distance in space, but also billions of years of geologic history of the earth by the evidence without going into space, and simply a solar system billions of miles across in .a vast panarama of billions of years of time by direct evidence.

Your imagined ages in an uncreated universe depend on time existing uniformly. Prove it. Ha
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Your imagined ages in an uncreated universe depend on time existing uniformly. Prove it. Ha

First I do not argue for or against a created Universe at present. I am arguing for the matter of fact objective verifiable evidence of science. . I believe in God and believe God Created all of existence simply by natural processes.

Science by its nature does not prove anything. It falsifies theories and hypothesis based on the objective verifiable evidence. The existence of our universe, solar system, star, planet, and evolution of life billions of years old has been falsified by any reasonable doubt. At present there is no other hypothesis that fits the evidence.

Again . . . the vast distances in our universe has been calculated with extreme accuracy based on fairly simple triangulation using high school geometry.

Again . . .

A very unfortunate creative and misguided imagination on your part, and not science. Sounds like the rational of geocentric believers.

You conveniently choose to ignore the direct measurement of distance in space, but also billions of years of geologic history of the earth by the evidence without going into space, and simply a solar system billions of miles across in .a vast panarama of billions of years of time by direct evidence.
 

dad

Undefeated
First I do not argue for or against a created Universe at present. I am arguing for the matter of fact objective verifiable evidence of science. . I believe in God and believe God Created all of existence simply by natural processes.
Not the God of the bible then.

Science by its nature does not prove anything. It falsifies theories and hypothesis based on the objective verifiable evidence. The existence of our universe, solar system, star, planet, and evolution of life billions of years old has been falsified by any reasonable doubt. At present there is no other hypothesis that fits the evidence.
Yes the sun and stars and earth exist. The way we came to exist has not been 'falsified' or known by science.
Again . . . the vast distances in our universe has been calculated with extreme accuracy based on fairly simple triangulation using high school geometry.
Based on drawing lines to stars that supposedly represent the space/time all the way..but are really based on time and space in the solar system and area only.

Again . . .

A very unfortunate creative and misguided imagination on your part, and not science. Sounds like the rational of geocentric believers.
Polly want a cracker?

You ignore the basis for Cosmo claims.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
[QUOTE="dad, post: 6302444, member: 62841] <snip>

Polly want a cracker?

You ignore the basis for [literal Biblical] mythology of the Cosmo claims.[/QUOTE]

Parrots of literal Creationist claims can only parrott literal Creationist claims and not science.
 
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