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Solidarity for our American comrades

Discussion in 'Socialist Only' started by Tambourine, May 31, 2020.

  1. Tambourine

    Tambourine Well-Known Member

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    My heart goes out to you right now, to all those who are protesting and making a stand against the violence of the capitalist police state and its authoritarian arm of injustice.

    I look on you with respect and admiration, as do people from all over the world.
    You are doing what is right and just, and standing up against fascism.

    Stay safe and sane.

     
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    Seconded.
     
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    Thank you so much, Tambourine. I deeply appreciate your thoughtfulness.
     
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    You too, SC. Thanks so much!
     
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    By the way, I don't think most of us Americans are seeing this as part of a larger struggle against capitalism. From what I am hearing, it's much more typically seen in more focused terms as a response to racism and injustice.
     
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    Leave it to the commies to get it completely wrong. ;)
     
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    Do you self-identify as a socialist?
     
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    Some days. More like democratic socialist.
     
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    There are many anti-capitalists taking part in the protests. I saw communist and red/black flags.
     
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    I wonder if that's a common sight at the other protests?
     
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    Works for me.
     
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    I can't say, personally. But it does seem to be a mix of people who are generally concerned with justice, democracy and equality.
     
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    Capitalism tends to be more often entwined with the two than you might think.
     
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    I'm more than a little aware of that. In fact, I could write a book about it. However, I was not talking about myself, but instead generalizing about Americans. There is still in this country a tendency to sympathize with anyone perceived as 'the underdog', especially if they are further perceived as unfairly treated or oppressed.

    That tendency is largely drowned out these days by the 33% or so of Americans who do not share in those same feelings, and who are very loud and robust in ridiculing them, but you still routinely encounter the tendency on a day-to-day basis with most ordinary people.

    I think the reason we are seeing so many protests spring up in so many cities overnight has more to do with Americans tending to favor the underdog and feel moral outraged at injustice, than it has to do with American's grasp of the larger picture here. Remember, you are dealing with a people who were propagandized during the Cold War to think of "socialism" as evil.

    Add to all of that the fact Americans are not notably appreciative of abstract thinking. "If it's not concrete, it's irrelevant." That could be the motto of many.
     
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    You don't need to be consciously fighting for socialism in order to fight the capitalist order. In many ways, fighting against concrete everyday problems could be a better way to produce change than by attaching oneself to abstract ideals.

    Besides, I believe that things are changing with regards to Americans' attitude towards socialism. Recent generations seem a lot more sympathetic to both the word and the ideas behind it than previous ones.
     
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