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Slavery (Women) and Islam

Sumit

Sanatana Dharma
Not lawful to you are women after , nor for you to exchange them for wives, even if their beauty were to please you, except what your right hand possesses. And ever is Allah , over all things, an Observer. (Quran 33:52)

Why Allah here supports slavery of women.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
What does this verse even mean? The verses never seem to have clear meaning to me. Maybe it's just bad translation.
 

Sumit

Sanatana Dharma
What does this verse even mean? The verses never seem to have clear meaning to me. Maybe it's just bad translation.
This is correct translation. Videos of Islamic Scholars on this are available on Youtube. This verse is related to women owned or captured during jihaad from non muslims, here in this verse Allah says that muslims can not marry more than four (they must divorce one of the four to further marry) but they can make sexual relationship with the slaves (left hand posses).
 

Shia Islam

Quran and Ahlul-Bayt a.s.
Premium Member
Not lawful to you are women after , nor for you to exchange them for wives, even if their beauty were to please you, except what your right hand possesses. And ever is Allah , over all things, an Observer. (Quran 33:52)

Why Allah here supports slavery of women.

The emancipation of slaves was one of the goals achieved by Islam...
This was achieved by many laws that resulted in the end of slavery..

Read this in the Quran:


"But he hath not attempted the Ascent -
Ah, what will convey unto thee what the Ascent is! -
(It is) to free a slave"

فلا اقتحم العقبة
وما ادراك ما العقبة
فك رقبة
سورة البلد - سورة 90 - آية 11-13

If it's not for Islam, large proportion of humans today will still be slaves.
Slaves where among the first to embrace Islam...

The first Caller for Prayer in Islam was a slave from Africa...
The Quran is full with verses calling for freeing of slaves.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Not lawful to you are women after , nor for you to exchange them for wives, even if their beauty were to please you, except what your right hand possesses. And ever is Allah , over all things, an Observer. (Quran 33:52)

Why Allah here supports slavery of women.

Nowadays there is no need to spend money all the time for possessing few girls as there are many prostitutes to offer it for men against a few Dollars and i think prostitution is allowed in India. :)

In India, prostitution (the exchange of sexual services for money) is legal
Reference : Prostitution in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But still in India women are suffering from rapes. :eek:

[youtube]RZ5OsS9vXls[/youtube]
Indian Villagers beat politician accused of rape - worst country in the world for women to live - YouTube
 
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Sumit

Sanatana Dharma
The emancipation of slaves was one of the goals achieved by Islam...
This was achieved by many laws that resulted in the end of slavery..

Read this in the Quran:




If it's not for Islam, large proportion of humans today will still be slaves.
Slaves where among the first to embrace Islam...

The first Caller for Prayer in Islam was a slave from Africa...
The Quran is full with verses calling for freeing of slaves.

O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation and those your right hand possesses from what Allah has returned to you (quran 33/50)

Except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they will not be blamed (quran 23/6)

And marry the unmarried among you and the righteous among your male slaves and female slaves. If they should be poor, Allah will enrich them from His bounty, and Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing.(Quran 24:32)

And never is it for a believer to kill a believer except by mistake. And whoever kills a believer by mistake - then the freeing of a believing slave and a compensation payment presented to the deceased's family [is required] unless they give [up their right as] charity. (Quran 4:92)
:facepalm:
 

Shia Islam

Quran and Ahlul-Bayt a.s.
Premium Member
O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation and those your right hand possesses from what Allah has returned to you (quran 33/50)

Except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they will not be blamed (quran 23/6)

And marry the unmarried among you and the righteous among your male slaves and female slaves. If they should be poor, Allah will enrich them from His bounty, and Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing.(Quran 24:32)

And never is it for a believer to kill a believer except by mistake. And whoever kills a believer by mistake - then the freeing of a believing slave and a compensation payment presented to the deceased's family [is required] unless they give [up their right as] charity. (Quran 4:92)
:facepalm:

I doubt that you understood the last verse that you quoted.
It is one of the means by which Islam has emancipated slaves.

Do you think that Islam should have told people 'all slaves are free starting from today'?
 

Sumit

Sanatana Dharma
Nowadays there is no need to spend money all the time for possessing few girls as there are many prostitutes to offer it for men against a few Dollaqrs and i think prostitution is allowed in India. :)

But Islamic country are far ahead. Acc to google pakistan top in porn search. ;)

In India, prostitution (the exchange of sexual services for money) is legal
Reference : Prostitution in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But still in India women are suffering from rapes. :eek:

[youtube]RZ5OsS9vXls[/youtube]
Indian Villagers beat politician accused of rape - worst country in the world for women to live - YouTube
I know muslims will present such claims. By the way why don't you study conditions of women in Islamic countries like Pakistan, Somaliya, Afghanistan. India have more muslims than Pakistan+Bagladesh. More than 28 crore and they are also involved in crimes. The place with more muslim population top in crime. Ex- Uttar Pradesh.
 
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FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
But Islamic country are far ahead. Acc to google pakistan top in porn search. ;)


I know muslims will present such claims. By the way why don't you study conditions of women in Islamic countries like Pakistan, Somaliya, Afghanistan.

Yes thats what i am saying to you,far better today,few dollars and a new girl every night. :D

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Shia Islam

Quran and Ahlul-Bayt a.s.
Premium Member
I did but what about my question?? Why Allah favours slavery of women. Why he allows muslims to have sexual relationship with female slaves.

There was only one question mark in my post:

Do you think that Islam should have told people 'all slaves are free starting from today'?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
It should have said "let their be no slave" :D

What a silly thread about slavery

Slavery in India

Slavery experts agree that, by comparison with other countries, India has the largest concentration of slavery in all its forms. Slavery in India, whether in sexual exploitation or other forms of labor, typically uses the mechanism of debt bondage, where slaves are psychologically chained to an illegal debt that they are forced to repay through their labor. If the psychological pressure fails, then slaveholders enforce debt bondage slavery through direct violence. Although FTS partners have rescued slaves held in chains, most Indian slaves can move around the village as long as the slaveholder controls their work.

Reference : https://www.freetheslaves.net/SSLPage.aspx?pid=679

[youtube]VhWnAkzU-Oc[/youtube]
Prostitution & Sex Slavery in India Spread AIDS - YouTube
 

Sumit

Sanatana Dharma
What a silly thread about slavery

Slavery in India

Slavery experts agree that, by comparison with other countries, India has the largest concentration of slavery in all its forms. Slavery in India, whether in sexual exploitation or other forms of labor, typically uses the mechanism of debt bondage, where slaves are psychologically chained to an illegal debt that they are forced to repay through their labor. If the psychological pressure fails, then slaveholders enforce debt bondage slavery through direct violence. Although FTS partners have rescued slaves held in chains, most Indian slaves can move around the village as long as the slaveholder controls their work.

Reference : https://www.freetheslaves.net/SSLPage.aspx?pid=679

[youtube]VhWnAkzU-Oc[/youtube]
Prostitution & Sex Slavery in India Spread AIDS - YouTube

Why don't you answer my question, why allah allows slavery of women. If their is slavery or poverty in India, we will work to solve it out. But what about Quran?? Will Muslims remove all such verses??
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Why don't you answer my question, why allah allows slavery of women. If their is slavery or poverty in India, we will work to solve it out. But what about Quran?? Will Muslims remove all such verses??

We don't have women slavery in muslims countries,so solve the slavery in India instead of your worries about the coming slavery in the Islamic countries.

Try to see the causes of prostitution in India,maybe the quranic verses is one.
 
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