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- Thread starter krsnaraja
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ManTimeForgot
Temporally Challenged
I am honestly confused about how to respond to this. Half of me is tempted to report this as baiting/spam. The other half of me is wondering who would be foolish enough to try to rise to such a foolish challenge.
You honestly expect to receive evidence over the internet? This is the same place where anonymity allows people to claim to be aliens and unicorn were-tiger hybrids.
You expect anyone to take your "prize" claim seriously? What is it: "$10 US over paypal?"
Side Note: I don't think anyone has ever advanced the claim that "God" is communicating with us each and every second of every moment of every day all the time. Some pantheists/panentheists might be willing to advance a claim that "God" informs us in the same way that the laws of physics "inform us" each and every moment all the time, but that isn't the same thing as communication.
MTF
You honestly expect to receive evidence over the internet? This is the same place where anonymity allows people to claim to be aliens and unicorn were-tiger hybrids.
You expect anyone to take your "prize" claim seriously? What is it: "$10 US over paypal?"
Side Note: I don't think anyone has ever advanced the claim that "God" is communicating with us each and every second of every moment of every day all the time. Some pantheists/panentheists might be willing to advance a claim that "God" informs us in the same way that the laws of physics "inform us" each and every moment all the time, but that isn't the same thing as communication.
MTF
krsnaraja
Active Member
Get a stethoscope. Put the bell part of the instrument on your mid chest then tell me what are these beating sounds you hear.
ManTimeForgot
Temporally Challenged
Photonic
Ad astra!
The still beating heart I stole from that dying orphan I was eating.
I had to find SOMETHING to put in there. I was told humans keep things there too.
krsnaraja
Active Member
The heart sounds say, " LUB..GUD..LUB..GUD..LUB GUD..LUB..GUD..LUB..GUD"
IsmailaGodHasHeard
Well-Known Member
You do not have the right to report this person because they have done nothing wrong.
IsmailaGodHasHeard
Well-Known Member
Creation is proof of a Creator.
How so?
Erebus
Well-Known Member
Well I'm a little busy so I can't talk to all of you every day.
krsnaraja
Active Member
I was not supposed to tell this proof until everyone has posted but it raised an issue. So, here it goes.The heart sounds say, " LUB..GUD..LUB..GUD..LUB GUD..LUB..GUD..LUB..GUD"
IsmailaGodHasHeard
Well-Known Member
Something cannot come from nothing. That would make no sense to me.
I don't think it is any more peculiar that the universe can exist without a God than that God exists. Both concepts are beyond me.
ManTimeForgot
Temporally Challenged
Something cannot come from nothing. It wouldn't just be making no sense to you; it would be making no sense to anyone who was honest about understanding what the terms mean.
Creation Ex Nihilo is impossible. If it is part of something's identity to not have a trait, then it by definition cannot do something which is associated with that trait.
But there is a hidden assumption on your part. You are assuming reality has a beginning. We don't know this. The universe might have had a beginning, but that doesn't mean that reality had a beginning. And we aren't even sure the universe has a beginning.
Point being; If you have an eternal uncreated universe/reality, then there isn't any need for it to be created in the first place.
MTF
Photonic
Ad astra!
That something cannot come from nothing argument has always confused me.
It's circular logic isn't it?
Would it not also be an infinitely complex explanation for finite complexity?
Erebus
Well-Known Member
Agreed. I've always had something of a modern take on the Greek notion of Chaos myself (Chaos in this instance being whatever state reality was in before time, matter etc assuming such a state existed).
Anyway, for a more serious answer to the OP, I would suggest that different people see the divine in different things and through different perspectives. One person might find it in their heartbeat, another might find it in the awe they feel when looking at the stars. We all experience "God" daily in our own way and we apply different names and concepts to the sensation.