science in the quran -Sahih Bukhari 4.537 , Sahih Bukhari 7.673

[beenie]

ohh my i am sorry i apolgise , did not make it falsley , i just got them mixed up , apart from that , it was twice in the hadiths , so we kno we can trust him as a reliable source , do you agree

To be honest, I had never heard of this Hadith until someone else brought it up here on RF. Why do you care if it's authentic or not? Does it harm you, non-Muslims, or Muslims in general? I interpret this Hadith to be either what I posted above or what YmirGF suggested, and not really significant. I do know, however, that if a fly landed in my water, I'd be getting new water. Does that help?

 

[take it or leave it]

To be honest, I had never heard of this Hadith until someone else brought it up here on RF. Why do you care if it's authentic or not? Does it harm you, non-Muslims, or Muslims in general? I interpret this Hadith to be either what I posted above or what YmirGF suggested, and not really significant. I do know, however, that if a fly landed in my water, I'd be getting new water. Does that help?

i do care , because its my goal in life to prove islam is a fasle relgion and mohammed was a faslr prophet , that is a fact beyond doubt to those with eyes to see , i am simply proving how inaccurate islam is regarding science , and the fact that muslims are so sure the quran is a sicentific miricale.....its not as you can see, apart from islam also teaching the earth is flat , and the scholars of that time all confirmed it , yes it can be translated to egg shape , but all the scholars agrred it was flat , oohhhh and sperm comes from the spin , all rubbish is there any true scientfic claims in the quran at all ?

 

[Muhktar]

i do care , because its my goal in life to prove islam is a fasle relgion and mohammed was a faslr prophet , that is a fact beyond doubt to those with eyes to see , i am simply proving how inaccurate islam is regarding science , and the fact that muslims are so sure the quran is a sicentific miricale.....its not as you can see, apart from islam also teaching the earth is flat , and the scholars of that time all confirmed it , yes it can be translated to egg shape , but all the scholars agrred it was flat , oohhhh and sperm comes from the spin , all rubbish is there any true scientfic claims in the quran at all ?

Why do you wish to prove Islam a false religion?

Also the Quran is pretty good with it's reference to the soul entering the body/the fetus' heart beginning to beat.


Oh and I don't mean to be rude, but could you please read over your post to see how much sense it makes in regards to spelling/punctuation/grammer?
I, and many others I presume, find it very difficult to understand your posts at times. Sorry if I came across as rude there.

 

[YmirGF]

i do care , because its my goal in life to prove islam is a fasle relgion and mohammed was a faslr prophet , that is a fact beyond doubt to those with eyes to see , i am simply proving how inaccurate islam is regarding science , and the fact that muslims are so sure the quran is a sicentific miricale.....its not as you can see, apart from islam also teaching the earth is flat , and the scholars of that time all confirmed it , yes it can be translated to egg shape , but all the scholars agrred it was flat , oohhhh and sperm comes from the spin , all rubbish is there any true scientfic claims in the quran at all ?

You put people like me in a very awkward position. I can hardly be described as a defender of Islam and am quite sure that several Muslims, right here on RF, would substantiate that.

What you have to try to appreciate is that using this particular tactic, of pointing out odd hadiths, will not win you many brownie points, as Muslims themselves are all over the map in their interpretation and virtually all non-Muslims are quite ignorant of anything to do with hadiths - if they have even heard of them. Besides this, Muslims have been discussing these things for 1400 years, so they have a tiny head start on you. The main thing, it appears that you are glossing over is the admonition that Muslims educate themselves and not just trust everything they hear, but rather, to inform themselves and draw their own conclusions. Obviously, due to intelligence levels and critical thinking skills, results will vary - as one would expect.

I don't know - when was the last time you tried to have a reasonable conversation with a fundamentalist Christian who thinks the Bible is the literal word of god? How did that conversation go?

 

[Marble]

@take it or leave it
Perhaps it would be a good idea to spend your time on strenghtening and development of your own faith instead of offering criticism of the faith of others.

 

[Badran]

i do care , because its my goal in life to prove islam is a fasle relgion and mohammed was a faslr prophet

Based on your knowledge of Islam, and your ability to express yourself, i can guarantee that you will fail in accomplishing your goal in life.

 

[beenie]

You put people like me in a very awkward position. I can hardly be described as a defender of Islam and am quite sure that several Muslims, right here on RF, would substantiate that.

What you have to try to appreciate is that using this particular tactic, of pointing out odd hadiths, will not win you many brownie points, as Muslims themselves are all over the map in their interpretation and virtually all non-Muslims are quite ignorant of anything to do with hadiths - if they have even heard of them. Besides this, Muslims have been discussing these things for 1400 years, so they have a tiny head start on you. The main thing, it appears that you are glossing over is the admonition that Muslims educate themselves and not just trust everything they hear, but rather, to inform themselves and draw their own conclusions. Obviously, due to intelligence levels and critical thinking skills, results will vary - as one would expect.

I don't know - when was the last time you tried to have a reasonable conversation with a fundamentalist Christian who thinks the Bible is the literal word of god? How did that conversation go?

Awesome post, and I agree.

@take it or leave it
Perhaps it would be a good idea to spend your time on strenghtening and development of your own faith instead of offering criticism of the faith of others.

Aww, that's no fun for him, now is it?

Based on your knowledge of Islam, and your ability to express yourself, i can guarantee that you will fail in accomplishing your goal in life.

So true.

i do care , because its my goal in life to prove islam is a fasle relgion and mohammed was a faslr prophet , that is a fact beyond doubt to those with eyes to see , i am simply proving how inaccurate islam is regarding science , and the fact that muslims are so sure the quran is a sicentific miricale.....its not as you can see, apart from islam also teaching the earth is flat , and the scholars of that time all confirmed it , yes it can be translated to egg shape , but all the scholars agrred it was flat , oohhhh and sperm comes from the spin , all rubbish is there any true scientfic claims in the quran at all ?

Have fun, take it or leave it...you're doing a great job so far. If you're going to troll Islam, can you at least make a coherent argument?

 

[Badran]

i do care , because its my goal in life to prove islam is a fasle relgion and mohammed was a faslr prophet

In addition to what i said, you also can't do that here:

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[Muhktar]

oh but we're TERRORISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Marble]

Yeah Muhktar, be careful - we've got you in sight

 

[take it or leave it]

Yeah Muhktar, be careful - we've got you in sight

oops schools out , run along little ones