Which is?
When is assault and battery NOT a case of hating somebody?
Saying 'I'm going to smack you' and then smacking someone. You hardly need to be "beating them for 5 minutes".
People tend to kill people they dislike.
If that was the case, then there would be an awful lot more murder.
This what it comes down to. Did he say "death to all <minorites>"? or did he not.
Juries tend to believe the person being oppressed far more then the vandal
Evidence for this, please. Juries do tend to be biased against minorities.
Which is why you cite so many examples:sarcastic
Every time a statement of yours is in "quote" brackets, consider it an "example".
I should not be able to just point at random people and claim they committed a crime against me. In fact, we DO penalize people. Its called perjury, but it is almost never applied to rape cases
Of course not. In order for it to be applicable, 1) beyond the shadow of a doubt, the accuser was knowingly lying, 2) the accuser lied specifically to hurt the other's reputation 3) the person's reputation was significantly damaged by the accusations, enough to require monetary compensation. Most often in rape cases, the person can't prove s/he was raped, and therefore the accused is declared simply "not guilty".
You do realize that before you can make an accusation, you should at least have, hmm, evidence maybe? A great deal of rape/ sexual harassment cases devolve into your word bs my word.
No, they don't, they require witnesses, forensic and medical evidence just like anyone else.
********. If you honestly think that a defendant has never won a rape or sexual harassment case, you have been living under a rock.
Doctor found not guilty of rape | Herald Sun
Notes from underground: Jacob Zuma found not guilty of rape
Army Sergeant Found Not Guilty of Rape
Man found not guilty in rape, aggravated child molestation Columbus Ledger-Enquirer - Find Articles
Man Found Not Guilty In Rape Of High School Student - News Story - WLWT Cincinnati
This isn't even google news, just regular google, first page.
William Kennedy Smith found not guilty of rape December 11 in History
Sex Offender Found Not Guilty In Rape Case - Topix
Man Found Not Guilty In Sex Assault Because He Was Asleep - Local News Story - WKMG Orlando
King found not guilty in rape trial - Front Page
The jury system carries with it the flaws of the people who compose it. There is no such thing as partiality in the more...bloody.. cases, where people tend to sympathize heavily with the victim.
Of course not, and this is true whether or not there are "hate crime" laws.
Wrong. I can have the thoughts, but when expressed through grafitti its a hate crime?
Yep. When you translate your thoughts to illegal behavior, such as grafitti, violence, employment discrimination, harassment--guess what? It's a hate crime! Do you still not get it?
lets ee, one person planned the death. One guy was drunk and crashed into you.
They are not thought crimes at all, but more on the circumstances. Thoughts can never be proven in a court of law, so we rely on circumstances.
And we rely on circumstances as evidence for hate crimes too--but the bottom line is, we are making judgments on what their intent was. Circumstances can only help provide evidence one way or the other. Just like in hate crimes....in one case, a person accidentally crashes into a black guy, in the other, the black guy is being hung from his tree with DIE DARKIE DIE scratched into him. :sarcastic Hmmm...(what you mean I can THINK about hanging black guys from trees, but when I actually do it, it's a hate crime??!?!? Yes.)
When is hate NOT a motivating force for violent act?
But what you quoted has absolutely nothing to do with what you said. Let me say it again, because I didn't once mention "hate", and I think this is a concept which you have an
incredibly hard time grasping:
your "right to be racist" ends when you start using your racism to commit violent acts on, intimidate and terrorize people of color Period. That means racist thoughts, not racist actions.
Also, we aren't talking about "crimes in which hate is a motivating force", we are talking about "hate crimes", something which has a specific legal definition. Now, if you don't like the wording, then I can't help you, but stop opening your face to whine about how other people murder people whom they hate too.
I don't care.
The problem is hate crime is meant to punish a point of view. What exactly stops it from it applying to other areas?
The benevolence of our politicians?
No, it's meant to punish a specific type of crime. You can think whatever you want to think, you can say whatever you want to say.
your "right to be racist" ends when you start using your racism to commit violent acts on, intimidate and terrorize people of color
That is what hate crimes intend to punish.