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Resurrection

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The world is on fire
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It is a late 19th Century legend. :D

"In 1887, a Russian war correspondent, Nicolas Notovitch, claimed that while at the Hemis Monastery in Ladakh, he had learned of a document called the "Life of Saint Issa, Best of the Sons of Men" – Isa being the Arabic name of Jesus in Islam.

.. and Max Müller stated that either the monks at the monastery had deceived Notovitch (or played a joke on him), or he had fabricated the evidence. Müller then wrote to the monastery at Hemis and the head lama replied that there had been no Western visitor at the monastery in the past fifteen years and there were no documents related to Notovitch's story. J. Archibald Douglas then visited Hemis monastery and interviewed the head lama who stated that Notovitch had never been there. Indologist Leopold von Schroeder called Notovitch's story a "big fat lie".
Unknown years of Jesus - Wikipedia

It's more than that.

There is one secret about Jesus which the Christians do not know. When Jesus was crucified, he did not die. He entered the state of Nirvikalp Samadhi (the I-am-God state without bodily consciousness).

On the third day, he again became conscious of his body, and he traveled secretly in disguise eastward (with some apostles) to India. This was called Jesus' resurrection.

After reaching India, he traveled farther east to Rangoon, in Burma, where he remained for some time. He then went north to Kashmir, where he settled.

When his work was finished on earth, he dropped his body and entered Nirvikalp Samadhi permanently.

Saints in India have verified these facts about Jesus' travels. Mankind will soon become aware of the true life of Jesus.

The Life of Jesus

And then there's a tomb and a claim: Roza Bal - Wikipedia
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
.. hindu ism isn't more/less important than christianity
It is not. It is different, without insistence on one God and without prophets / sons / messengers / manifestations / mahdis. It is an organic growth. It is pagan.
 
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Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
It is not. It is different, without insistence on one God and without prophets / sons / messengers/ manifestations / mahdis. It is an organic growth. It is pagan.
I don't have a problem with many forms of brahman
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
If you do a whole thesis that said Earth once owned cold clear gases in space and no life lived on Earth. The Earth facer was crystalline fused. The Sun released its hot body from gaining a cold outside amassing in the spatial vacuum. Blew off its stone ownership, then blew out hot radiation mass.

And that description in the male human psyche says a UFO war, that attacked the planets in the Universe....then you told that story yourselves scientists.

You also said that the Sun caused the Earth gases on the side facing the Sun to become re lit. Seeing historically gases cooling in space were previously with light, as burning.

Earth was face and also core converted...the flooded Earth, water evaporation saved Earth, as a planet and the atmosphere also.

The gases you said became Immaculate from a volcanic release in the spatial vacuum, that owns no science ownership...for stone gases ended in stone in the spatial vacuum. Earth heavens became their own body. How you taught relativity.

The Immaculate gases were sacrificed in a burning/Satanic Sun attack, and it was quoted to be UFO/Sun Time. Seeing gases burning are just gases burning that only own natural light. Not any Sun Time. Sun Time in science meant male human awareness for stone conversion.

That story told you that the stone did not own what the heavenly body of gas spirits did in a spatial vacuum, as simple a statement that it is.

Hence the sacrificed spirit gas of light belonged to Earth O the planet....and you named our planet ONE/Earth/God/Allah by definition, the only entity that supported existence in a natural story.

Therefore if you went about trying to copy natural history, in ownership fake themes such as an example....nature grows all food for all life. Males in groups controlled growing food, said you owned it, then said now human family pay me and I will allow you to starve also. Just because he can.

Group mentality and fake ownership reasoning. Today in life, groups claim thinking gives them claim and ownership or I patent my thoughts and now own natural spatial vacuum, the planets by my thinking theories, the Sun, and all thoughts as if ownership is his claim again.

So guess who is going to pay for the warnings, not only by science who said the greedy will kill us all....but humans have said the same statement for a long time....as the humans who claim I own it all. Then tried to infer that a human bio life body owned all the powers and forces of the universe dimensionally, as if a human first began in space, travelled through space, developed our bodies by alien, by Satan angels and then converted into humans.

How that form of scientist wants you all to believe he can resource power if he studied bio existence, and cell replacement and then copy it in a machine reaction.

So you then begin to wonder about why any one is allowed to discuss information that is not relative to self survival on the only planet where we live, personally as humans, who live today by human sex.....that by scientific studies, goes back to 2 original existing human parents, living a long time ago as our natural history.

Yet that relative science advice is totally ignored. Makes you wonder, for I do at human mentality.

Therefore when males preached that God the gases of the stone are deceased, for they owned no light. Humans are alive due to natural light above our heads...and then they alight the gases in stone beneath our feet and it sacrifices attacks us, the resurrection was about SPIRIT, the gases, that began light in burning acts.

Why they activated burning beneath our feet and sacrificed our life. How the story was taught as relative to occult lying. The spirit gases burning own light, but at its beginnings without the spatial vacuum cooling. How Satanists did it to us, and are studying the information again reasoning it for new science.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
I don't have a problem with many forms of brahman
For some Hindus it is 'many forms of Brahman' for others, it is 'many different Gods and Goddesses, even some of indeterminate gender'. The total factually goes to 'hundreds' and proverbially to 'millions'. A generalized statement does not work for Hinduism. :D
 

The Anointed

Well-Known Member
12 different recorded appearances of Jesus:
1st of 12 The appearance of Jesus to Mary Magdalene Sunday 17th or 21st of Nisan Matthew 28:1, Mark 16:9-11, John 20:11-18

2nd of 12 The appearance of Jesus to the other women, Matthew 28:1

3rd of 12 The appearance of Jesus to two disciples (Cleophas and another) on the road to Emmaus, Mark 16:12-13, Luke 24:13-32, John 24:33-35, 1 Corinthians 15:5

4th of 12 The news of the appearance of Jesus to Simon Peter, Luke 24:33-35, 1 Corinthians 15:5

5th of 12 The appearance to the astonished disciples (Thomas absent) with a commission, Mark 16:14, Luke 24:36-43, 1 Corinthians 15:5

6th of 12 The appearance of Jesus to the disciples the next Sunday night, John 20:26-31

7th of 12 The appearance of Jesus to seven disciples beside the Sea of Galilee, John 21:1-25

8th of 12 Jesus appears to the eleven disciples on a mountain in Galilee, Matthew 28:16-20, Mark 16:15-18

9th of 12 Jesus appears to about 500 hundred people on a mountain in Galilee, 1 Corinthians 15:6

10th of 12 Jesus appears to James his brother, 1 Corinthians 15:7, Galatians 1:9

11th of 12 Jesus appears to the disciples with another commission, Luke 24:44-49 & Acts 1:3-8

12th of 12 Jesus appears to the disciples with another commission, Luke 24:44-49 & Acts 1:3-8

Appearances of Jesus by ken S

12 different recorded appearances of Jesus:
1st of 12 The appearance of Jesus to Mary Magdalene Sunday 17th or 21st of Nisan Matthew 28:1, Mark 16:9-11, John 20:11-18


The appearance of Jesus to Mary Magdalene was three days after he was buried in the tomb as the sunset on the fourteenth of Nisan where his body remained Thursday night and the following Thursday the 15th, Friday night and Friday the sixteenth, Saturday night and Saturday the seventeenth, and was risen sometime in the darkness of Sunday night the eighteenth of Nissan.

2nd of 12 The appearance of Jesus to the other women, Matthew 28:1

It was an angel of the Lord who appeared to the women and told them that Jesus was not in the tomb because he had been risen.

3rd of 12 The appearance of Jesus to two disciples (Cleophas and another) on the road to Emmaus, Mark 16:12-13, Luke 24:13-32, John 24:33-35, 1 Corinthians 15:5

Cleophas the husband of Mary and Simon the son of Cleophas, and half-brother to Jesus.

4th of 12 The news of the appearance of Jesus to Simon Peter, Luke 24:33-35, 1 Corinthians 15:5

No! it was to Simon the son of Cleophas who recognised the stranger who had walked with them to Emmaus as Jesus by the manner in which he broke the bread.

5th of 12 The appearance to the astonished disciples (Thomas absent) with a commission, Mark 16:14, Luke 24:36-43, 1 Corinthians 15:5

Cleophas returned from Emmaus and revealed to the disciples in the darkened room, which included Simon the patriot and Simon Peter, that the Lord had appeared to Simon the half-brother to Jesus, the Disciple called Thomas Didymus Jude, another half-bother of Jesus, who was called ‘The Twin’ was not present that night when Jesus appeared.

6th of 12 The appearance of Jesus to the disciples the next Sunday night, John 20:26-31

Correct, doubting Thomas was there that evening, whether he was an actual twin or simply held a striking resemblance to someone with whom he shared a common father is unknown.

7th of 12 The appearance of Jesus to seven disciples beside the Sea of Galilee, John 21:1-25

Correct, and of those seven, who had walked and talked with Jesus, not one dared to ask who that person was, but they understood that he was of the risen body of Christ.

8th of 12 Jesus appears to the eleven disciples on a mountain in Galilee, Matthew 28:16-20, Mark 16:15-18

Correct, but even some of them doubted if it was Jesus who they saw ascend as a cloud.

9th of 12 Jesus appears to about 500 hundred people on a mountain in Galilee, 1 Corinthians 15:6

Correct! Jesus did appear to 500 people, but it is not said in 1 Corinthians that it was on a mountain in Galilee.

10th of 12 Jesus appears to James his brother, 1 Corinthians 15:7, Galatians 1:9

It is probable that the Lord Jesus appeared often to the disciples, since he was 40 days on earth after his resurrection, and the evangelists have only mentioned the more prominent instances, and enough to substantiate the fact of his resurrection. This James, the fathers say, was James the Less, the brother of Jesus. But apart from 1 Corinthians 15: 7; there is no other record of Jesus ever appearing to James his brother.

11th of 12 Jesus appears to the disciples with another commission, Luke 24:44-49 & Acts 1:3-8

Correct.

12th of the twelve is the same as 11th of your 12..
 
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cataway

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The problem isn't in pictures, images It's in self. Images don't create idolatry. People create disparity in placing an image above another. God created all mankind in the image of God. Jesus' image is not better/worse than another
a near relative of mine spoke of a statue of Jesus ,some where in Florida. some people removed the head and she was incensed that some one would do that to a statue of Jesus. i felt compelled to read from the book of Exodus 20:4 “You must not make for yourself a carved image or a forma like anything that is in the heavens above or on the earth below or in the waters under the earth. 5 You must not bow down to them nor be enticed to serve them, for I, Jehovah your God, am a God who requires exclusive devotion,........

I am sure she did not like .yet some times people need a reminder of what they should be doing
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
a near relative of mine spoke of a statue of Jesus ,some where in Florida. some people removed the head and she was incensed that some one would do that to a statue of Jesus. i felt compelled to read from the book of Exodus 20:4 “You must not make for yourself a carved image or a forma like anything that is in the heavens above or on the earth below or in the waters under the earth. 5 You must not bow down to them nor be enticed to serve them, for I, Jehovah your God, am a God who requires exclusive devotion,........

I am sure she did not like .yet some times people need a reminder of what they should be doing
and people don't realize there was no likeness of jesus for 100s of years and then......................
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
It's more than that.

There is one secret about Jesus which the Christians do not know. When Jesus was crucified, he did not die. He entered the state of Nirvikalp Samadhi (the I-am-God state without bodily consciousness).

On the third day, he again became conscious of his body, and he traveled secretly in disguise eastward (with some apostles) to India. This was called Jesus' resurrection.

After reaching India, he traveled farther east to Rangoon, in Burma, where he remained for some time. He then went north to Kashmir, where he settled.

When his work was finished on earth, he dropped his body and entered Nirvikalp Samadhi permanently.

Saints in India have verified these facts about Jesus' travels. Mankind will soon become aware of the true life of Jesus.

The Life of Jesus

And then there's a tomb and a claim: Roza Bal - Wikipedia
someone's been doing their research but you got your horse before the cart. as a young man, the lost years, he supposedly did these things. his ministry in israel was the culmination of returning home. I do believe he probably returned to kashmir; which at that time was still part of India.


evidently he was rousted where ever he went because he kept giving away the fundamentalist secrets. knowledge is power. those who were truly interested in holiness recognized him as one of their own, although foreign.



 
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cataway

Well-Known Member
and people don't realize there was no likeness of jesus for 100s of years and then......................
and yet many feel that Jesus is God .

better it is to listen and fallow the advice from scripture
John 4:23 Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.”
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
and yet many feel that Jesus is God .

better it is to listen and fallow the advice from scripture
John 4:23 Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.”
jesus claimed everyone was god.


it doesn't matter what one believes without works, evidence, or realization. faith without works is d-o-a
 

cataway

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jesus claimed everyone was god.


it doesn't matter what one believes without works, evidence, or realization. faith without works is d-o-a
any thing can be a god . your car, your home . even your country can be a god.
 

Dan From Smithville

What we've got here is failure to communicate.
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Lying is a part of science, the belief that you are allowed to change natural history.

Group cult mentality.

Then the group claims, yes we got attacked by our own science cause false Prophet of the mountain claim ^ pyramid, knew it attacked us, activated natural disasters, and then thought "lucky to still be alive". Even though sacrificed human life, like UFO victims today, animals alike were being attacked. Witnessed attack, but greedy elitists, always ignore correct advice until they get attacked.

Common human behaviour in greedy organization.

So Rome historically is told that it ignored advice about Temple/Pyramid technology and the Jewish community said that their life was being sacrificed, even though they petitioned for it to be ceased/stopped.

Rome then got attacked knew it was real and banned the technology. History says the real story.

Common sense, we live in a gas lit burning heavenly upper body that gets cooled, by the void or vacuum, gases on the face of water in space teaching.

Consciousness gained advice living inside of that gas alight atmosphere.

Stone as God mass origin ONE O did not own facial gas alight burning. Its gases/spirit is said to be inside of a tomb of deceased spirits, the gases as cold gases.

Relative ancient scientific symbolism teaching.

So when you resurrect light out of God, and make its spirit come alive, then hot burning gases come out of the ground. Whereas in the atmosphere not only does water cool the gases, so does the spatial vacuum, which the ground did not own.

How life got sacrificed. The detail and reason/DATA written as a story after the fact detailed why life got sacrificed.

For the sacrifice crucifixion worst attack, did not occur until ground activation caused it.....life however was already being attacked, and the story says so factually.
Lying is not part of science.
 

Dan From Smithville

What we've got here is failure to communicate.
Staff member
Premium Member
Yes it is, science is artificial by all conditions, human male imposed. It is not natural, and natural owns all bodies in the state natural.

Science takes natural by invention, forces changes to its natural form to own invention.
No. Science is nothing like you describe. Your description is fantastical and in no way factual. You are simply wrong. Lying is not part of science.
 
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