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Discussion in 'Christianity DIR' started by arabian_knight1, Jun 17, 2004.

  1. arabian_knight1

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    I have a Question for catholics
    What exactly are confessions? and why do you need someone between you and God why can't it be between you and God only?


    please leave this in this forum don't put it in the sub-catholic forum because we need a thread where we can ask about Chrisianity in general


    peace upon all who seek guidance
     
  2. swingin' n

    swingin' n New Member

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    confession is when you confess aloud to God your sins in order to be absolved from them.

    while you can talk to God at any time through prayer without the need of anyone mediating, a priest acting with the authority of god is the only one who can actually free you of those sins.
     
  3. arabian_knight1

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    so your sins CAN'T be freed until you confiss to a priest ?


    what if the priest himself make a mistake ?

    does the priest get paid for confissions ??


    swingin'n thx for the reply
     
  4. dan

    dan Well-Known Member

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    No man cometh unto the Father but by me. There is no mediator other than Christ. My forgiveness is between me and God; if you want it another way that's your prerogative, but know that it is not the way God intends for you to confess your sins.
     
  5. arabian_knight1

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    dan


    I'm askin' catholics and I'm expecting answers from catholics


    dan are you trying to ask or you're givin' me your opinion ???
     
  6. dan

    dan Well-Known Member

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    I didn't realize you were asking Catholics. I apologize.
     
  7. arabian_knight1

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    ok I'm sorry too I just thought that the answer should be from someone who's catholic or else it'd be biased that's all

    peace on
     
  8. Mr Spinkles

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    arabian knight-- I am not Catholic, but I went to a Catholic school for three years. Priests do not get paid for hearing confessions.
     
  9. arabian_knight1

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    thx Mr_Spinkles for your reply


    ok

    to what level can the priest go ( In crimes ) ?? ( I mean that If someone commeted a crime and decided to confiss will his sins be freed ??

    what about serious crimes ??

    thx again
     
  10. Mr Spinkles

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    yes, people can confess to priests for all crimes (even murder) and the priest is not required to reveal these confessions to anyone (actually, I am not positive what the law in the U.S. says about that...). However, most priests will tell murderers etc. that they cannot confess until they turn themselves in to the authorities.
     
  11. quick

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    This is only a Catholic view. Protestants have no priests, priest meaning "intercessor", but rather have pastors or ministers or reverends. Why? Because Christ is the only intercessor we need. This is a key and significant difference between the Roman church and Protestant denominations.

    Here is but one of the the Scriptural bases for the Protestant view:

    Hebrews 4

    "14 Therefore, since we have a great (26) high priest who has (27) passed through the heavens, Jesus (28) the Son of God, let us hold fast our (29) confession.
    15 For we do not have (30) a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been (31) tempted in all things as we are, yet (32) without sin.
    16 Therefore let us (33) draw near with (34) confidence to the throne of grace, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need. "


    cross-references

    2 Cor 6:1; Gal 5:4; Heb 12:15
    Rom 10:17; Gal 3:2; 1 Thess 2:13
    Ps 95:11; Heb 3:11
    Matt 25:34
    Heb 2:6
    Gen 2:2
    Ex 20:11; 31:17
    Ps 95:11; Heb 3:11
    Heb 3:18; 4:11
    Heb 3:7f
    Ps 95:7f
    Josh 22:4
    Rev 14:13
    Gen 2:2; Heb 4:4
    2 Pet 2:6
    Heb 3:18; 4:6
    Jer 23:29; Eph 5:26; Heb 6:5; 1 Pet 1:23
    Acts 7:38
    1 Thess 2:13
    Eph 6:17
    1 Thess 5:23
    1 Thess 5:23
    John 12:48; 1 Cor 14:24f
    2 Chr 16:9; Ps 33:13-15
    Job 26:6
    Heb 2:17
    Eph 4:10; Heb 6:20; 8:1; 9:24
    Matt 4:3; Heb 1:2; 6:6; 7:3; 10:29
    Heb 3:1
    Heb 2:17
    Heb 2:18
    2 Cor 5:21; Heb 7:26
    Heb 7:19
    Heb 3:6


    Here is also an excerpt from the Westminster Confession detailing Jesus' role as intercessor (Scripture proof texts omitted):

    Chapter VIII
    Of Christ the Mediator
    I. It pleased God, in His eternal purpose, to choose and ordain the Lord Jesus, His only begotten Son, to be the Mediator between God and man,[1] the Prophet,[2] Priest,[3] and King,[4] the Head and Savior of His Church,[5] the Heir of all things,[6] and Judge of the world:[7] unto whom He did from all eternity give a people, to be His seed,[8] and to be by Him in time redeemed, called, justified, sanctified, and glorified.[9]

    II. The Son of God, the second person of the Trinity, being very and eternal God, of one substance and equal with the Father, did, when the fullness of time was come, take upon Him man's nature,[10] with all the essential properties, and common infirmities thereof, yet without sin;[11] being conceived by the power of the Holy Ghost, in the womb of the virgin Mary, of her substance.[12] So that two whole, perfect, and distinct natures, the Godhead and the manhood, were inseparably joined together in one person, without conversion, composition, or confusion.[13] Which person is very God, and very man, yet one Christ, the only Mediator between God and man.[14]

    III. The Lord Jesus, in His human nature thus united to the divine, was sanctified, and anointed with the Holy Spirit, above measure,[15] having in Him all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge;[16] in whom it pleased the Father that all fullness should dwell;[17] to the end that, being holy, harmless, undefiled, and full of grace and truth,[18] He might be thoroughly furnished to execute the office of a Mediator and Surety.[19] Which office He took not unto Himself, but was thereunto called by His Father,[20] who put all power and judgment into His hand, and gave Him commandment to execute the same.[21]

    IV. This office the Lord Jesus did most willingly undertake;[22] which that He might discharge, He was made under the law,[23] and did perfectly fulfil it;[24] endured most grievous torments immediately in His soul,[25] and most painful sufferings in His body;[26] was crucified, and died,[27] was buried, and remained under the power of death, yet saw no corruption.[28] On the third day He arose from the dead,[29] with the same body in which He suffered,[30] with which also he ascended into heaven, and there sits at the right hand of His Father,[31] making intercession,[32] and shall return, to judge men and angels, at the end of the world.[33]

    V. The Lord Jesus, by His perfect obedience, and sacrifice of Himself, which He through the eternal Spirit, once offered up unto God, has fully satisfied the justice of His Father;[34] and purchased, not only reconciliation, but an everlasting inheritance in the kingdom of heaven, for those whom the Father has given unto Him.[35]

    VI. Although the work of redemption was not actually wrought by Christ till after His incarnation, yet the virtue, efficacy, and benefits thereof were communicated unto the elect, in all ages successively from the beginning of the world, in and by those promises, types, and sacrifices, wherein He was revealed, and signified to be the seed of the woman which should bruise the serpent's head; and the Lamb slain from the beginning of the world; being yesterday and today the same, and forever.[36]

    VII. Christ, in the work of mediation, acts according to both natures, by each nature doing that which is proper to itself;[37] yet, by reason of the unity of the person, that which is proper to one nature is sometimes in Scripture attributed to the person denominated by the other nature.[38]

    VIII. To all those for whom Christ has purchased redemption, He does certainly and effectually apply and communicate the same;[39] making intercession for them,[40] and revealing unto them, in and by the word, the mysteries of salvation;[41] effectually persuading them by His Spirit to believe and obey, and governing their hearts by His word and Spirit;[42] overcoming all their enemies by His almighty power and wisdom, in such manner, and ways, as are most consonant to His wonderful and unsearchable dispensation.[43]
     
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