:sad: Boy, talk about how Jesus must have felt. I have been contemplating this and quite honestly.. I can't explain it.
It really is a matter of everything physical in the Tanakh being equated to ourselves as spiritual. How do you explain that?
You are focusing on the physical aspects and so that is what you are going to see. Until you can :cover:, you cannot see our Father. All the traditions that the Jewish people keep, keep you bound to the physical... which may be why you are the suffering servant AND the scape goat. I very easily could be both as well.
I see the picture, I just can't explain it because it has been explained.. in the Tanakh. Maybe I had the advantage in that I was not bound to the physical aspect of my heritage. In light of that, I am starting think that YOU are the scapegoat and I represented the suffering servant. But, then again it was because I was the scapegoat, sent out into the wilderness that made me search desperately for my heritage... then, I found it, but I can't prove that to you physically. If you saw me physically, you would say Irish.. but that would not negate the fact that the blood running through my veins is of the same line. Now, that I see myself in the whole of the Tanakh (I mean.. that is me, my story), I feel like the suffering servant. I am saying these things, but no one is understanding me.
You have the idea more so than anyone else I have come across and it was because of contemplating the things that you said and searching that I saw it. But I was forced to look spiritually because I cannot prove that I am this.. it was purely instinctual for me. I was afflicted into finding my identity. In that sense, I could see you being the scapegoat and the suffering servant.
Okay... let me try to say it this way.
Basically, I understood things spiritually (instinctively) before I could bring that to a physical knowledge and understanding. I struggled (suffered) bringing my spiritual knowledge into the physical realm.
You are the opposite of me. You understand things physically and you are struggling (suffering) to understand them spiritually.
So, in essense, it really all goes back full circle. I can show you something in Isaiah that, if you can understand what I am saying (and I KNOW you can) will amaze you.
Isaiah 40: 22
It is he that sitteth upon the
circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain (spiritual), and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in (physical):
That is how I saw the Father and it was from that circle of the earth that His right hand reached out to pull me up to set my foot on the rock. :yes:
It is when you find Him that reality really sinks in that heaven is this and this is heaven. Hell is when you don't understand the marvelous adventure and lack that curiousity.. which is what blind faith does.. it shuts off that spiritual curiousity; thus your physical life becomes mundane.
So, in essense.. is being the scapegoat and suffering servant really a curse or a blessing? I think most definately the latter.
whether you are the physical or the spiritual expression of these, it certainly makes for an awesome adventure.
The Bible (whether Christian or Hebrew) is the guide to fuel the adventure back to the Father, no? Honestly, had it not been for Paul, would I have noticed? Consider if you will, the following verses and note the similarity..
Genesis 6: 16
A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in the side thereof; with lower, second, and third
stories shalt thou make it.
Ezekiel 41: 16
The door posts, and the narrow windows, and the galleries round about on their three
stories, over against the door, cieled with wood round about, and from the ground up to the windows, and the windows were covered;
Ezekiel 42: 3
Over against the twenty cubits which were for the inner court, and over against the pavement which was for the utter court, was gallery against gallery in three
stories.
Ezekiel 42: 6
For they were in three
stories, but had not pillars as the pillars of the courts: therefore the building was straitened more than the lowest and the middlemost from the ground.
Amos 9: 6
It is he that buildeth his
stories in the heaven, and hath founded his troop in the earth; he that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is his name.
Anything?
There was the first story.. the Tanakh.. Struggle to obey because of ignorance
The second.. The New Testament...Struggle to find True knowledge.. His knowledge
The third... ?? Understanding ??
I don't know.. Just speculating here as far as the last part. (my mind tends to wander on these things haha)