Question for the Jews..

[Follow_The_Truth]

hello,

i have a question to the jews..

Must jews or noachides believe that the Thorah is written by Moses?

Is this a fundamental principle of faith of Judaism?

 

[Caladan]

hello,

i have a question to the jews..

Must jews or noachides believe that the Thorah is written by Moses?

Is this a fundamental principle of faith of Judaism?

I assume that all or most Jewish members here do not believe that the first five books of the Hebrew Bible were delivered by Moses, and probably support the scholars assertion that the books of the Hebrew Bible were composed by various authors in a time period which is stretched to hundreds of years.

to put things in perspective, I am a Jewish atheist.

 

[sadiq]

hello,

i have a question to the jews..

Must jews or noachides believe that the Thorah is written by Moses?

Is this a fundamental principle of faith of Judaism?

You mean the belief that the Torah was revealed to Moses on mount Sinai.
How could it be a fundamental principle of faith in Judaism?

 

[Follow_The_Truth]

I get it from wikipedia from Maimonides.

If you look at wikipedia and write Maimonides you get a list of "The 13 principles of faith"

one of them is "God's law given on mount sinai.." or when you typ on wikepedia Jewish principles of faith you get.. " I believe with perfect faith that the entire Torah that is now in our possession is the same that was given to Moses our teacher, peace be upon him.""

 

[Caladan]

I get it from wikipedia from Maimonides.

If you look at wikipedia and write Maimonides you get a list of "The 13 principles of faith"

one of them is "God's law given on mount sinai.." or when you typ on wikepedia Jewish principles of faith you get.. " I believe with perfect faith that the entire Torah that is now in our possession is the same that was given to Moses our teacher, peace be upon him.""

In orthodox Judaism it can very well be the traditional view.
IT IS the traditional held belief. however, Jewish thought on many levels also incorporates the acceptance of scholarship and research. for all I know, I could be wrong and many Jewish members on the forum may disagree with me. after all I try to look at it from a perspective of an archaeologist who attended Scriptural historiography classes- obviously different from an orthodox view of the Bible.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I am confident in and comfortable with the belief that the Torah is the product of man.

 

[Levite]

hello,

i have a question to the jews..

Must jews or noachides believe that the Thorah is written by Moses?

Is this a fundamental principle of faith of Judaism?

The predominate view in Orthodox Judaism is that the Torah was given by God to Moses on Mount Sinai; most Orthodox Jews, in my experience, would say that means that the Written Torah which we have today was passed down, verbatim, from Moses, who heard it from God at Sinai.

That is not the predominate view in non-Orthodox Judaism. There are many different views in non-Orthodox Judaism concerning Torah authorship.

The 13 Principles of Faith written by Maimonides were his opinion about what are the indisputable fundamental principles of Judaism. They are not canon or doctrine. Many have disagreed with him, and there is nothing wrong with that. There are actually quite few universally accepted principles of Jewish faith: Judaism is a religion that makes room for many differing opinions on more or less every matter.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

As is often the case -- good answer.

 

[Penumbra]

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[Follow_The_Truth]

So almost all jews believe, and judaism teach that Moses get all of the Thorah on the mount Sinai? Inclusive the message about his death..?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

So almost all jews believe, and judaism teach that Moses get all of the Thorah on the mount Sinai? Inclusive the message about his death..?

No. Why do you ask?

 

[Tamar]

So almost all jews believe, and judaism teach that Moses get all of the Thorah on the mount Sinai? Inclusive the message about his death..?

Remember there are different movements in Judaism and views on the Torah and if it was given to Moses or whether there were other writers.

Different Perspectives on the Authorship of the Torah - My Jewish Learning

 

[Rakhel]

There is one thing non-Jews must remember when asking a group of Jews a question.
No two Jews will answer the same question the same way in the same fashion at the same time.

 

[Levite]

So almost all jews believe, and judaism teach that Moses get all of the Thorah on the mount Sinai? Inclusive the message about his death..?

Almost all Orthodox Jews believe that. But not all Jews are Orthodox. In fact, today, statistically, most Jews are not Orthodox.

And even in Orthodoxy, many believe that the last eight verses of Deuteronomy, that describe Moses' death and the mourning of the people for him, were written by Joshua (as was taught in the Talmud).

Non-Orthodox Jews have other, different beliefs about the authorship of Torah.