Zxzyx said:
This moon splitting must have been a worldwide phenomenon! Do you know if we have records from around the world of this event? Astrologers must have had a field day. Do we know if the moon split in two equal halves or a bit broke off? I have read one theory that this prophecy was fulfilled when Neil Armstrong went to the moon and brought a piece back.
Zxzyx said:
I did not say it was unbelievable I just asked if we have records of the moon splitting from round the world since everyone would have been able to see it with the naked eye. They say that the tides are dictated by the moons orbit of the earth so were there any reports of unusual tides at this time. Do you believe that only Muhammad and those he was talking to saw this miracle because the whole planet should have been able to see this one.
* Some unreasoning opponents argue that if that incident had taken place, in would have been mentioned in the histories of such nations as the Chinese, the Japanese and Americans. How could they have witnessed it, given that, when this event happened, in addition to other obstacles, it was barely sunset in such European countries as Spain, France and England, which were then enveloped in mists of ignorance, daytime in America and morning in China and Japan. A thousand curses on such toadies and sycophants of Europe!
It was shown in BBC a program where there was a debate between three experts. The discussion was about if the amount of money paid by NASA to send a human to land on the surface of the moon to study the inner structure of the moon was worth it or not?? The American government authorised a budget of $100, 000, 000, 000 (one hundred thousand million dollar) for this project.
One of the discoveries of that project was that there is a layer of material that splits the moon into two halves and the only explanation to this discovery that the moon was split at some times in its history and rejoined !!!!!!!!!!!!! (Subhan Allah)
Do you need more scientific proofs?!?!
The disbelievers will never accept any proof even if it is clear to them and they will turn away from it. Allah descriped in the same verses the reaction of the disbelievers [this also applies to the people of our time] when they get faced with the truth. The sura reads [54:2-8 ] ' And if they see a sign, they turn away, and say: (This is continuous magic) * They belied (the Verses of Allah, this Qur'an), and followed their own lusts. And every matter will be settled [according to the kind of deeds (for the doer of good deeds, his deeds will take him to Paradise, and similarly evil deeds will take their doers to Hell)].* And indeed there has come to them news (in this Qur'an) wherein there is (enough warning) to check (them from evil), * Perfect wisdom (this Qur'an), but (the preaching of) warners benefit them not, * So (O Muhammad SAW) withdraw from them. The Day that the caller will call (them) to a terrible thing. * They will come forth, with humbled eyes from (their) graves as if they were locusts spread abroad, * Hastening towards the caller, the disbelievers will say: 'This is a hard Day.'
a British Muslim young man introduced himself as Daoud Moussa Peetcock head of the British Islamic Party.
He explained saying: At the time when I was searching in religions (before he embraced Islam), a Muslim student gave me as a present the translation of the meaning of Quran. I thanked him and took it home. The first Surat I came across when I opened the book, it was Chapter of the Moon I read "has drawn near, and the moon has been cleft asunder". I said to myself, is this statement logical? Is it possible for the moon to split and then reattach what kind of power may cause this? The man explained that this verse made me reluctant to continue reading. I became busy with my life,yet ALLAH of course Knows how sincere I was about finding the truth.
So,one day ALLAH made me sit to watch TV. It was a talk show between a British commentator and three American astronautics specialists. The show host was blaming the scientists for spending thriftily over space trips at a time when earth is suffering hunger,poverty, diseases and backwardness. He was telling them, it would have been more feasible to allocate this kind of money for reconstruction of earth. To this argument, the three men answered defending their position that such technology is widely applied in many wakes of life such as medicine, industry and agriculture. They added that the money is never wasted but it rather supported the development of highly advanced technology.
During their dialogue, they mentioned the trip in which a man landed on the moon surface as it consumes the the largest cost which comes to more than US $100.000.000.000. The British TV anchor screamed saying what kind of thrift is this? A hundred thousand million dollars just to plant the American flag on the moon surface? They answered no; the objective was not to plant the American flag but rather to study the interior composition of the moon. We actually came to a finding that would cost us double folds of this amount for people to believe and yet they will never believe. The show host inquired what is this fact?
They replied: One day this moon was split and then reattached. The show host again probed: how did you realize that? The scientists responded about finding a belt of transformed rocks cutting the moon from its surface to core and then to the surface again. The stated saying: we consulted with earth scientists and geologists who explained that such phenomenon would never occur unless this moon one day split and then reattached.
The British Muslim man said: I jumped out of my chair saying ALLAH (SWT) forced the Americans to spend more than a hundred billion dollars to prove to Muslims a a miracle that took place 1400 years ago for Mohamed (PBUH)? This religion must be the truth. He added: I went back to the Quran and recited Surat Al Qamar, which was my gate for accepting Islam.
The incident relating to King Chakrawati Farmas is documented in an old manuscript in the India Office Library, London, which has reference number: Arabic, 2807, 152-173. It was quoted in the book "Muhammad Rasulullah," by M. Hamidullah:
"There is a very old tradition in Malabar, South-West Coast of India, that Chakrawati Farmas, one of their kings, had observed the splitting of the moon, the celebrated miracle of the Holy Prophet (pbuh) at Mecca, and learning on inquiry that there was a prediction of the coming of a Messanger of God from Arabia (Detail given bellow), he appointed his son as regent and set out to meet him. He embraced Islam at the hand of the Prophet, and when returning home, at the direction of the Prophet, died at the port of Zafar, Yemen, where the tomb of the "Indian king" was piously visited for many centuries."
The old manuscript in the 'India Office Library' contains several other details about King Chakrawati Farmas and his travel.
"CHAKRAWATI FARMAS King of Malabar India" by Dr. Z. HAQ at
http://cyberistan.org/islamic/farmas.html
Zxzyx said:
I dont know what to make of the crying tree, could you offer your understanding of it please.
*actually Prophet peace be upon him was standing beside that tree while he recite his speech among muslims and he was putting his arms or shoulder next to it but when people made what we call ( minbar ) in arabic which is a higher place the one stand on it and make his speech from the tree missed prophet Mohammed (PBUH) so then he came to it when it cried and put his hand on it (like when you put your hands on the horse for example) to make the tree calm.
you can check also this link that was posted by michel in another thread.
http://www.islamic-paths.org/Home/English/Muhammad/Other/Miracles.htm#Crying%20of%20the%20stem%20of%20the%20Date-palm%20Tree
Zxzyx said:
Are the other miracles you mentioned in the Quran? If not why not?
* because only words of God in the Quran and what other people see of miracles was in separetd book to not be mixed with God's words as we can see in the bible when they mixed words of God, Jesus's words and eye witnesses' words.