Tinkerpeach
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Can an egg or sperm create a human on their own?
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Question about the snake in Eden
- Thread starter Frank Goad
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What has that to do with the price of fish?
They are both alive whether you accept them as worthy of life or not.
Tinkerpeach
Active Member
Sure but what does that have to do with the abortion debate?
Vegetables are alive also but I still eat them.
Being alive isn’t the same as being human.
Vegetables don't usually produce human eggs and sperm.
Being human is a moving target, some class fertilisation as the point, some class 9 weeks after fertilisation. Some consider a fetus as human then the nervous system develops or others when vital functions are established.
So the being human argument is arbitrary.
Wheras being alive ... Well ..
Tinkerpeach
Active Member
I am arguing that the process has begun, the part where it becomes human is irrelevant to that.
Tinkerpeach
Active Member
And human eggs and sperm will not either unless combined.
Once that happens the result will be a human being or miscarriage unfortunately.
I do not feel anyone has the right to deny someone’s existence and that is just a personal belief.
And i don't feel anyone has the right to dictate what i can do with my body. Sure, keep it personal, but don't force your personal beliefs on others
Tinkerpeach
Active Member
Except in the case of rape you did it to yourself, nobody is dictating to you. If you become pregnant because you are irresponsible you become responsible for the pregnancy.
The time to think about not having a child is before you have sex.
Nope not just in the case of rape, consent to sex is not consent to pregnancy. Often enough pregnancy can abd does happiny accident so get this derogatory only if raped bull**** out of your brain
And yes you are dictating what a woman can do with her body (HER BODY), not yours or anyone else's but hers.
Tinkerpeach
Active Member
When you have sex you are accepting the risk of getting pregnant
Indeed there is a risk of unintended pregnancy when people have sex. Should this happen .. one needs take responsibility for the consequences of sex .. and abort the process prior to a human being created. .. so . as soon as possible .. right after the condom breaks .. go and get an abortion pill ..
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Or getting someone else pregnant.
We have veered from the topic. Snakes and Ladders is a well known board game. Its also called chutes and ladders.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I've always heard it called Chutes and Ladders. That's pretty far off topic!
I am just getting ready to bring up a scripture about the former and the ladder rains, bringing us back towards bible stuff and then eventually around back to the snake and why she lost her legs. Unless you think the serpent was male.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Latter rains and sure, the serpent was male. I mean, why not? 50/50 shot most likely.
I've never given this question much thought. It only just now occurred to me that the sex of the serpent was never given but only the fact that it had legs.
Tinkerpeach
Active Member
A woman can blame the guy all she wants but she is still the one that has the pregnancy.