Pro Choice or Pro Life (Survey)

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Very bad analogy. Do you know why slaves couldn't get passports? Because they were not seen as persons.

And yet they were clearly seen as sentient beings despite their whining about white superiority because you never see them buy African embryos to work the fields.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

When do you think they do constitute a person?

Every human being now living in the world was once for cells.

If the four cells that grew into who you are today were killed, you would have been killed.

Preventing an abortion saves a human life.

I was once an ovum in my mom’s ovaries when she was born but I was not a person then.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Inconvenience is not an excuse for killing.

A tumor has more than 4 cells. Shall we give it civil rights, especially if it is genetically distinct from the host body, like an absorbed twin?

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

I guess my point is, is there a possibility for a compromise?
Nobody gets exactly what they want but terms acceptable to a majority can be agreed on?

Maybe consider a zygote 3/5 of a person? It still has no sentient capacity but why let defined biology ruin things?

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

No, but catholic hospitals get the choice to kill the mother.

Death of Savita Halappanavar - Wikipedia

This is one of the reasons I'm pro-choice.
Banning abortion doesn't stop abortions; it just stops safe abortions.

No one killed the mother.

Choosing to kill is much different than failing to save.

One is intentionally evil, the other is a terrible tragedy.[/QUOTE]
A tragedy they could have avoided if they valued their professional standards. If they want to be a church, good for them. Anyone and anything can be a church. However, the medical profession has standards and hospitals that refuse those standards should have their licenses revoked.

 

[Nakosis]

Maybe consider a zygote 3/5 of a person? It still has no sentient capacity but why let defined biology ruin things?

I wouldn't leave that up to me. Don't even biologists have to reach some agreement between themselves?

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

No. Vaccines can be dangerous. An individual can make that choice.

No one should be able to intentionally kill the innocent.

Banning abortion bans the removal of dead embryos and fetuses.