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President Trump moment of glory.

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
At lease people knows one thing, That President Trump did something that none of other Presidents did, got to meet and shake hands with North Korea, Kim Jon un.
Without having to do anything.

Unlike Obama giving Iran $400, million dollars and then trying to hide it out from the American people and Congress. And this was all done in the middle of the night.

So Obama not taking the Iran deal before Congress, like he should haved done, it's not binding, Now if Iran wants another deal, it will go before Congress so it will be a binding deal. By President Trump and Congress.
It was just another sneaky deal done by Obama and John Kerry.and there's more to come, Stay Tune People

President Trump brought the unemployment way down, for African Americans and the Latinos. More than any other president ever did.
President Trump wanted to meet with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, but never showed up, for DACA, Now you don't hear a thing from Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, What's up with all that ?

Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer never wanted to do anything for DACA anyway. It was nothing but a scam just to get votes, but it didn't work.
That now DACA has turned their backs on the democratic party, seeing that Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer didn't care one bit for them. Only wanted their votes and now DACA are voting Republican.

President Trump has kept every promise that he made, which none of the other presidents did.

The only thing that people are mad about is that now their having to go to work, that there's no more free ride off the tax payers expense.

In HUGE Win for Trump, Xi Jinping of China Pulls Missiles from South China Sea Following Successful North Korea Summit @JacobAWohl (link: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/06/in-huge-win-for-trump-xi-jinping-pulls-missiles-from-south-china-sea-following-successful-north-korea-summit/) thegatewaypundit.com/2018/06/in-hug… via @gatewaypundit



In HUGE Win for Trump, Xi Jinping Pulls Missiles from South China Sea Following Successful North...
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Shushersbedamned

Well-Known Member
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
At lease people knows one thing, That President Trump did something that none of other Presidents did, got to meet and shake hands with North Korea, Kim Jon un.
Without having to do anything.

Unlike Obama giving Iran $400, million dollars and then trying to hide it out from the American people and Congress. And this was all done in the middle of the night.

So Obama not taking the Iran deal before Congress, like he should haved done, it's not binding, Now if Iran wants another deal, it will go before Congress so it will be a binding deal. By President Trump and Congress.
It was just another sneaky deal done by Obama and John Kerry.and there's more to come, Stay Tune People

President Trump brought the unemployment way down, for African Americans and the Latinos. More than any other president ever did.
President Trump wanted to meet with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, but never showed up, for DACA, Now you don't hear a thing from Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, What's up with all that ?

Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer never wanted to do anything for DACA anyway. It was nothing but a scam just to get votes, but it didn't work.
That now DACA has turned their backs on the democratic party, seeing that Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer didn't care one bit for them. Only wanted their votes and now DACA are voting Republican.

President Trump has kept every promise that he made, which none of the other presidents did.

The only thing that people are mad about is that now their having to go to work, that there's no more free ride off the tax payers expense.

Making America great again is off to a good start.

Wait till Trumps second term in office, hopefully the successes stay out of the hands of inept social liberals who accomplish nothing but recklessly regulate and tax people into abject dependency.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Making America great again is off to a good start.

Wait till Trumps second term in office, hopefully the successes stay out of the hands of inept social liberals who accomplish nothing but recklessly regulate and tax people into abject dependency.


In HUGE Win for Trump, Xi Jinping of China Pulls Missiles from South China Sea Following Successful North Korea Summit @JacobAWohl (link: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/06/in-huge-win-for-trump-xi-jinping-pulls-missiles-from-south-china-sea-following-successful-north-korea-summit/) thegatewaypundit.com/2018/06/in-hug… via @gatewaypundit



In HUGE Win for Trump, Xi Jinping Pulls Missiles from South China Sea Following Successful North...
thegatewaypundit.com
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
At lease people knows one thing, That President Trump did something that none of other Presidents did, got to meet and shake hands with North Korea, Kim Jon un.
Without having to do anything.

Unlike Obama giving Iran $400, million dollars and then trying to hide it out from the American people and Congress. And this was all done in the middle of the night.

So Obama not taking the Iran deal before Congress, like he should haved done, it's not binding, Now if Iran wants another deal, it will go before Congress so it will be a binding deal. By President Trump and Congress.
It was just another sneaky deal done by Obama and John Kerry.and there's more to come, Stay Tune People

President Trump brought the unemployment way down, for African Americans and the Latinos. More than any other president ever did.
President Trump wanted to meet with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, but never showed up, for DACA, Now you don't hear a thing from Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, What's up with all that ?

Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer never wanted to do anything for DACA anyway. It was nothing but a scam just to get votes, but it didn't work.
That now DACA has turned their backs on the democratic party, seeing that Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer didn't care one bit for them. Only wanted their votes and now DACA are voting Republican.

President Trump has kept every promise that he made, which none of the other presidents did.

The only thing that people are mad about is that now their having to go to work, that there's no more free ride off the tax payers expense.

In HUGE Win for Trump, Xi Jinping of China Pulls Missiles from South China Sea Following Successful North Korea Summit @JacobAWohl (link: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/06/in-huge-win-for-trump-xi-jinping-pulls-missiles-from-south-china-sea-following-successful-north-korea-summit/) thegatewaypundit.com/2018/06/in-hug… via @gatewaypundit



In HUGE Win for Trump, Xi Jinping Pulls Missiles from South China Sea Following Successful North...
thegatewaypundit.com
You detract from your post when you put false claims in it. We did not "give Iran $400 million dollars". If you return your neighbors lawn mower to him you did not give him a lawn mower. We merely returned Iran some of its money that we had been holding:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-bribed-iran-400-million-to-release-u-s-prisoners/
 

ecco

Veteran Member
At lease people knows one thing, That President Trump did something that none of other Presidents did, got to meet and shake hands with North Korea, Kim Jon un.
Yes he did. Thereby he proved he is absolutely clueless when it comes to diplomacy.

Without having to do anything.
Well, except cancel joint training exercises with South Korea.

Pentagon and Seoul Surprised by Trump Pledge to Halt Military Exercises
WASHINGTON — President Trump’s pledge on Tuesday to cancel military exercises on the Korean Peninsula surprised not only allies in South Korea but also the Pentagon.
You are obviously a big Trump fan, but don't you think he should have discussed this with the Joint Chiefs and SK's President beforehand?
 
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Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Yes he did. Thereby he proved he is absolutely clueless when it comes to diplomacy.


Well, except cancel joint training exercises with South Korea.

Pentagon and Seoul Surprised by Trump Pledge to Halt Military Exercises
WASHINGTON — President Trump’s pledge on Tuesday to cancel military exercises on the Korean Peninsula surprised not only allies in South Korea but also the Pentagon.
You are obviously a big Trump fan, but don't you think he should have discussed this with the Joint Chiefs and SK's President beforehand?

Yeah and shouldn't Obama and John Kerry discussed with Congress before giving $400 million dollars to Iran first.
Instead of doing it in the middle of the night.
What's up with all that Go Figure
 
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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Yes he did. Thereby he proved he is absolutely clueless when it comes to diplomacy.


Well, except cancel joint training exercises with South Korea.

Pentagon and Seoul Surprised by Trump Pledge to Halt Military Exercises
WASHINGTON — President Trump’s pledge on Tuesday to cancel military exercises on the Korean Peninsula surprised not only allies in South Korea but also the Pentagon.
You are obviously a big Trump fan, but don't you think he should have discussed this with the Joint Chiefs and SK's President beforehand?

I doubt if anything will come of this, but if there is a good outcome I will cheer the man. So far it is far too early to claim that this is a success. And crazy sometimes does work in politics. It worked for Reagan and Gaddafi.
 
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Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
At lease people knows one thing, That President Trump did something that none of other Presidents did, got to meet and shake hands with North Korea, Kim Jon un.
Without having to do anything.

Unlike Obama giving Iran $400, million dollars and then trying to hide it out from the American people and Congress. And this was all done in the middle of the night.

So Obama not taking the Iran deal before Congress, like he should haved done, it's not binding, Now if Iran wants another deal, it will go before Congress so it will be a binding deal. By President Trump and Congress.
It was just another sneaky deal done by Obama and John Kerry.and there's more to come, Stay Tune People

President Trump brought the unemployment way down, for African Americans and the Latinos. More than any other president ever did.
President Trump wanted to meet with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, but never showed up, for DACA, Now you don't hear a thing from Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, What's up with all that ?

Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer never wanted to do anything for DACA anyway. It was nothing but a scam just to get votes, but it didn't work.
That now DACA has turned their backs on the democratic party, seeing that Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer didn't care one bit for them. Only wanted their votes and now DACA are voting Republican.

President Trump has kept every promise that he made, which none of the other presidents did.

The only thing that people are mad about is that now their having to go to work, that there's no more free ride off the tax payers expense.

In HUGE Win for Trump, Xi Jinping of China Pulls Missiles from South China Sea Following Successful North Korea Summit @JacobAWohl (link: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/06/in-huge-win-for-trump-xi-jinping-pulls-missiles-from-south-china-sea-following-successful-north-korea-summit/) thegatewaypundit.com/2018/06/in-hug… via @gatewaypundit



In HUGE Win for Trump, Xi Jinping Pulls Missiles from South China Sea Following Successful North...
thegatewaypundit.com
Ugh. Could we have a conversation without spin and BS please? Trump did not achieve anything meaningful without guarantees or inspections. Obama did not "give Iran $400 million dollars", and that's as far as I got before I gave up.
 

ecco

Veteran Member

You really should try to get your news from sources other than rabid Trump supporters. Or at least actually read the stories. There is a footnote in the article you linked that states that the missiles were moved June 3rd.

Editor’s note: An earlier version of this article stated Xi Jinping removed missiles from South China Sea after the Trump-Kim Summit in Singapore. A correction was made noting the satellite imagery from Israeli private intel firm ImageSat is dated June 3rd, therefore the missiles were removed shortly before the Singapore Summit.

Today they are back.

China puts missiles back on contested South China Sea island

Israeli intelligence firm ImageSat International (ISI) said images taken on Friday indicated that China had returned its surface-to-air missile systems on Woody Island, known in China as Yongxing Island, in the Paracels “exactly to the positions they were”.
Maybe this was just China's way of showing their disdain and disrespect for DT. Like the dollar bill on a string...
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It's so easy to fool children.
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
I doubt if anything will come of this, but if there is a good outcome I will cheer the man. So far it is far too early to claim that this is a success. And crazy sometimes does work in politics. It worked for Reagan and Gaddafi.
If it works, sure. Me too. Unlike all the previous times DPRK has made similar pledges in the past.
 
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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
If it work, sure. Me too. Unlike all the previous times DPRK has made similar pledges in the past.

I know that. And that is why I will not hold my breath. China may temporarily relax a bit, but that does not mean that they are buying it either. Everything done so far by both sides appears to be easily reversible.

When and if inspectors are allowed into the country and given free rein to do their work then I will begin to believe.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Obama did not "give Iran $400 million dollars", and that's as far as I got before I gave up.

Perhaps "give" is not an accurate word to use, but the money in question was frozen due to the Iranian seizure of the US embassy and holding US citizens hostage for 444 days. Whether they deserved to get that money back after committing such a horrific crime against America is a larger issue, and it could be seen as a sign of weakness to make such a concession towards a terroristic regime.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You really should try to get your news from sources other than rabid Trump supporters. Or at least actually read the stories. There is a footnote in the article you linked that states that the missiles were moved June 3rd.

Editor’s note: An earlier version of this article stated Xi Jinping removed missiles from South China Sea after the Trump-Kim Summit in Singapore. A correction was made noting the satellite imagery from Israeli private intel firm ImageSat is dated June 3rd, therefore the missiles were removed shortly before the Singapore Summit.

Today they are back.
China puts missiles back on contested South China Sea island
Israeli intelligence firm ImageSat International (ISI) said images taken on Friday indicated that China had returned its surface-to-air missile systems on Woody Island, known in China as Yongxing Island, in the Paracels “exactly to the positions they were”.
Maybe this was just China's way of showing their disdain and disrespect for DT. Like the dollar bill on a string...
Screen-shot-2013-03-18-at-2.16.15-PM.jpg

It's so easy to fool children.
Wait a second . . . Did you double check with FOX News?
 

ecco

Veteran Member
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Perhaps "give" is not an accurate word to use, but the money in question was frozen due to the Iranian seizure of the US embassy and holding US citizens hostage for 444 days. Whether they deserved to get that money back after committing such a horrific crime against America is a larger issue, and it could be seen as a sign of weakness to make such a concession towards a terroristic regime.
Maybe you should read the Snopes article linked by SubductionZone.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-bribed-iran-400-million-to-release-u-s-prisoners/

The tribunal process dragged on for years and years without a ruling on the $400 million being issued, and finally, when arbitration process was apparently about to wind up (quite possibly not in American’s favor), the U.S. agreed to pay Iran back the $400 million principal along with $1.3 billion in interest. If the issue had gone to the tribunal for a decision, as was expected, the U.S. could have been on the hook for the full $10 billion in compensation Iran was seeking.
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Perhaps "give" is not an accurate word to use,
Right. Because it's a completely inaccurate, and deliberately misleading word to use. Obama didn't "give" Iran $400 million dollars, because the money wasn't Obama's to give. It already belonged to Iran, it had been seized and was being held as part of an embargo.

Now, whether you agree with the decision to unfreeze the money in exchange for the Iran deal is a totally separate matter. If you don't think it was a fair trade, fine, that's perfectly valid. But trying to suggest that Obama "gave" Iran anything (the inference being it was a payment from American coffer) is misleading to the point of falsehood.

Usual caveats; I don't like Obama, and never did. He did a bunch of things I strongly oppose. None of that justifies lying about him.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
At lease people knows one thing, That President Trump did something that none of other Presidents did, got to meet and shake hands with North Korea, Kim Jon un.
Without having to do anything.

Unlike Obama giving Iran $400, million dollars and then trying to hide it out from the American people and Congress. And this was all done in the middle of the night.

So Obama not taking the Iran deal before Congress, like he should haved done, it's not binding, Now if Iran wants another deal, it will go before Congress so it will be a binding deal. By President Trump and Congress.
It was just another sneaky deal done by Obama and John Kerry.and there's more to come, Stay Tune People

President Trump brought the unemployment way down, for African Americans and the Latinos. More than any other president ever did.
President Trump wanted to meet with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, but never showed up, for DACA, Now you don't hear a thing from Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, What's up with all that ?

Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer never wanted to do anything for DACA anyway. It was nothing but a scam just to get votes, but it didn't work.
That now DACA has turned their backs on the democratic party, seeing that Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer didn't care one bit for them. Only wanted their votes and now DACA are voting Republican.

President Trump has kept every promise that he made, which none of the other presidents did.

The only thing that people are mad about is that now their having to go to work, that there's no more free ride off the tax payers expense.

In HUGE Win for Trump, Xi Jinping of China Pulls Missiles from South China Sea Following Successful North Korea Summit @JacobAWohl (link: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/06/in-huge-win-for-trump-xi-jinping-pulls-missiles-from-south-china-sea-following-successful-north-korea-summit/) thegatewaypundit.com/2018/06/in-hug… via @gatewaypundit



In HUGE Win for Trump, Xi Jinping Pulls Missiles from South China Sea Following Successful North...
thegatewaypundit.com
Goat rodeo.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Right. Because it's a completely inaccurate, and deliberately misleading word to use. Obama didn't "give" Iran $400 million dollars, because the money wasn't Obama's to give. It already belonged to Iran, it had been seized and was being held as part of an embargo.

Now, whether you agree with the decision to unfreeze the money in exchange for the Iran deal is a totally separate matter. If you don't think it was a fair trade, fine, that's perfectly valid. But trying to suggest that Obama "gave" Iran anything (the inference being it was a payment from American coffer) is misleading to the point of falsehood.

Usual caveats; I don't like Obama, and never did. He did a bunch of things I strongly oppose. None of that justifies lying about him.

I understand your point, although I see more as a minor quibble over semantics than anything else.
 
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