Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
I'm a vision of gorgeousness and take part in half-marathons.
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[Poll] Vegan vs Carnivore
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Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
One person. That's a modest sample.
Wildswanderer
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Oh I've seen lots of pictures of prominent vegans... Especially the ones that have been doing it for a long time... they usually have chicken necks.
Shadow Wolf
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Wildswanderer
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Fat is needed to build cell membranes, the vital exterior of each cell, and the sheaths surrounding nerves. It is essential for blood clotting, muscle movement, and inflammation. For long-term health, some fats are better than others. Good fats include monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats. Bad ones include industrial-made trans fats. Saturated fats fall somewhere in the middle.
So what you should really avoid is deep fried food.
I think this is most likely the case. There are whole populations that subsist entirely or almost entirely on an animal-based diet: the Masia in Africa and the Inuit in the artic to give two examples. According to accounts by early explorers both populations enjoyed excellent health.
By contrast, members of each group have been observed to suffer an extreme decline in overall health once exposed to a more varied, modern diet.
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Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
Keto sounds a bit mental.
"Following such a diet means you will be replacing carbs with foods rich in fat and protein, and if followed over an extended period of time this may have unfavourable consequences for some individuals.
An intake of high fat foods is likely to increase your saturated fat intake which... recommend that we limit to 30g for men and 20g for women.
If you are interested in adopting this sort of diet you should consult your GP to confirm it is appropriate and safe for you to do so.
The symptoms associated with ketosis are often temporary and may relate to dehydration. These may include headache, dry mouth, bad breath, fatigue and nausea. However, it’s worth noting that because the diet restricts carbs it is typically low in dietary fibre which may have a negative impact on gut health including the presence of gut friendly bacteria."
- What is a keto diet? | BBC Good Food
"Following such a diet means you will be replacing carbs with foods rich in fat and protein, and if followed over an extended period of time this may have unfavourable consequences for some individuals.
An intake of high fat foods is likely to increase your saturated fat intake which... recommend that we limit to 30g for men and 20g for women.
If you are interested in adopting this sort of diet you should consult your GP to confirm it is appropriate and safe for you to do so.
The symptoms associated with ketosis are often temporary and may relate to dehydration. These may include headache, dry mouth, bad breath, fatigue and nausea. However, it’s worth noting that because the diet restricts carbs it is typically low in dietary fibre which may have a negative impact on gut health including the presence of gut friendly bacteria."
- What is a keto diet? | BBC Good Food
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
Easy. I stopped buying it.
I thought I'd really miss dairy cheese, but I soon found it seemed unappealing. Indeed when my partner and I go round a supermarket we both think the smell from the cheese aisle is nauseating. It's all in the brain ain't it!
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
I actually have known one. She ate a lot of dressing and other sauces, on just about everything.
Isn't trying to change ones eating habits all about the mental?
To be fair, biologically all one must do is maintain a diet that allows them to reproduce and help one's offspring survive to reproductive age. After that, existence is superfluous, no? I think its victory on that front everywhere except where there is famine. No diets required.
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
Presumably not the vegan bodybuilders you see on youtube.
Your comment is like me saying long-term meat-eaters are usually overweight.
My endocrinologist says I should drink milk or dairy.Easy. I stopped buying it.
I thought I'd really miss dairy cheese, but I soon found it seemed unappealing. Indeed when my partner and I go round a supermarket we both think the smell from the cheese aisle is nauseating. It's all in the brain ain't it!
By the way, I understand why many are not really into it.
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
If one long-term consumes more calories than one expends then one will become overweight, irrespective of diet. Chips (cooked in vegetable oil) is a vegan item, but a vegan diet based on this would obviously be unhealthy. Perhaps those who choose a vegan diet are more likely to make other healthy lifestyle choices?
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
Well if course any bodybuilder is going to look better... But it's a whole lot easier to be a bodybuilder eating meat.
Why would you go to all the trouble to find protein rich plants when you could just eat a steak?
That sounds as though it makes sense
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
Maybe people have other concerns too? "All the trouble" ? You mean, go into a food shop?
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
In that case they should research regenerative farming... It's a lot more promising than trying to convert everything over to plants, which is actually much worse for the environment.
Wildswanderer
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Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
You haven't a clue have you? You think many long-term vegans are going to change over to eat meat because the animal killed was "regeneratively raised" ?
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