Papa & Punya

[amit jain]

Hi All,

Please refer to the below Sutra of Mahavira

Sovanniyam pi niyalam, bandhadi kalayasam pi jaha purisam. Bandhadi evam jivam, suhamasuham va kadam kammam.

It means:-
Just as fetter whether made of iron or gold binds a person similarly Karma whether auspicious (punya) or inauspicious (Papa) binds the soul.- Sutra No 201, Saman Suttam.

Firstly i would like to know if this Sutra is from Agam's, and if yes, i would like to know the the details of the same.

Secondly, i would like to start a discussion on this topic. It says that both good and bad deeds are worth renouncing for a seeker of liberation.

I recently was in a discussion with a Jain monk who told me that this Sutra is wrong and is against Jain philosophy.

Please advice.

Thanks & Kind Regards,
Amit

 

[chinu]

Secondly, i would like to start a discussion on this topic. It says that both good and bad deeds are worth renouncing for a seeker of liberation.

Yes, Karma whether auspicious (punya) or inauspicious (Papa) binds the soul. Both of them creates Account/identity. (Papa) Is like.. we have taken some loan from any bank, (Punya) Is like.. we have deposited some money into the bank, Both these transactions creates account, Whereas moksha/libration/salvation means to close the account totally from this world.

But it doesn't means that one should renounce good actions, One should try to perform good actions in life by giving the total credit to god, Ie; By saying.. god is using me as source of these good actions.

I recently was in a discussion with a Jain monk who told me that this Sutra is wrong and is against Jain philosophy.

He/she might be saying that one should not renounce good actions, But one should try to perform good actions in life by giving the total credit to god.

 

[amit jain]

Thanks you sir,
Its highly appreciated.

Can you also please help me trace the source of the above Sutra.
I would like to know the details of the Agam and the Sutra No it is taken from.

Please advice if you can help me in this regard.

Thanks & Kind Regards,
Amit

 

[chinu]

Firstly.. am your brother, Not sir

Can you also please help me trace the source of the above Sutra. I would like to know the details of the Agam and the Sutra No it is taken from.

Away from the world of logics, i wrote all this on the behalf of -- that what i have realized till now.

 

[amit jain]

Thanks you sir.