outhouse
Atheistically
No answer is what you wrote, Just typical refusal to answer a simple easy question.
So the question REALLY becomes, WHO TAUGHT MYTHOLOGY TO MUHAMMAD ????????
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Origins of the Quran
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No answer is what you wrote, Just typical refusal to answer a simple easy question.
So the question REALLY becomes, WHO TAUGHT MYTHOLOGY TO MUHAMMAD ????????
outhouse
Atheistically
But this is just like YEC Christians reading the bible literally and perverting its context
outhouse
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All you have done is avoid and ignore
You refuse to debate any topic I bring up because your religion teaches you to avoid these kind of things.
islam has a built in reflector screen where its not allowed to discuss any kind of criticism what so ever.
its why you refuse knowledge and education
outhouse
Atheistically
Factually YOU DO.
When one makes a claim regardless of the circular thinking your trying to push on us all, without excuses, you are to address counter claims or not debate or push your beliefs on others.
outhouse
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It is obvious mythology about creating the heavens to a specific size.
It says nothing that it expanded at a certain rate then it started expanding faster in time like science, YOU are factually using mythology nd shoving into science.
http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=51&verse=47
Sahih International: And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander.
Yusuf Ali: With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who create the vastness of pace.
Shakir: And the heaven, We raised it high with power, and most surely We are the makers of things ample.
Muhammad Sarwar: We have made the heavens with Our own hands and We expanded it.
Mohsin Khan: With power did We construct the heaven. Verily, We are Able to extend the vastness of space thereof.
Arberry: And heaven -- We built it with might, and We extend it wide.
Augustus
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Do you get the concept of "I wrote a thread on it'?
How does writing a new thread on the topic = no answer and typical refusal? Very strange.
Why don't you actually read it? You will find many alternatives there.
I'll provide the link again:
http://www.religiousforums.com/thre...n-islam-various-academic-perspectives.182886/
Just click on it instead of being so childish.
outhouse
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So the question REALLY becomes, WHO TAUGHT MYTHOLOGY TO MUHAMMAD ????????
http://www3.nd.edu/~reynolds/
the Quran employs the term naṣārā because Muḥammad knew Christianity only through a Jewish– Christian sect.
http://www3.nd.edu/~reynolds/
the Quran employs the term naṣārā because Muḥammad knew Christianity only through a Jewish– Christian sect.
outhouse
Atheistically
You are late I already posted there
But I do not need another location I will still post here
Augustus
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You are late I already posted there
But I do not need another location I will still post here
You have made probably 40 posts asking the same question across multiple threads, and when an explicit and detailed answer is provided you pretend that it doesn't exist because it demonstrates that you are wrong. Then you run away from it as it is pretty hard to pompously demand an answer in a thread that is entirely about an answer to your question. This is all within your fictitious persona as a highly qualified, tertiary level lecturer who deeply cares about academic integrity despite the fact that you have never referenced an academic source in your life and have never understood one that has been highlighted to you.
It's very strange for a fully grown man to behave in such a way, but I suppose you get all sorts on the internet
I'm not really sure if you are an actual person anyway, I think you might be some kind of bot. A type of Turing test designed to trick people into thinking they are communicating with a real person.
None of your 'answers' ever relates to the post they are replying to, and you seem not to have the capability to comprehend anyone else's posts no matter how clearly and simply expressed. You simply pretend that they didn't answer your question and use more bold type.
There's this thing called a 'post-modern generator' - http://www.elsewhere.org/journal/pomo/
The Postmodernism Generator is a computer program that automatically produces imitations of postmodernist writing. It was written in 1996 by Andrew C. Bulhak of Monash University using the Dada Engine, a system for generating random text from recursive grammars.
I think you are actually an '@outhouse generator' where you randomly combine stock phrases like 'refusing academia', 'factually', 'WE demand HONESTY', 'You lack the education', 'FAIL', 'apologist', 'if you had the training that I do' and 'SIR you have no credibility' along with RANDOM capitalisation, BOLD TEXT, and superfluous PUNCTUATION!!!!!!!!!!!!! and a liberal sprinkling of
s and sCongrats to your programmer, he/she did a pretty good job, was almost believable for a while
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Some things are easy to disprove as absolutes such as your assertion of copying Christian sources:
That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:- Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
— Qur'an, sura 4 (An-Nisa) ayat 157-158
There is also the "Jesus buried in India" http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/8587838.stm and whether true or not it is not part of Christian theology.
paarsurrey
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Friend Augustus makes a good analysis of our resident historian+academia.You have made probably 40 posts asking the same question across multiple threads, and when an explicit and detailed answer is provided you pretend that it doesn't exist because it demonstrates that you are wrong. Then you run away from it as it is pretty hard to pompously demand an answer in a thread that is entirely about an answer to your question. This is all within your fictitious persona as a highly qualified, tertiary level lecturer who deeply cares about academic integrity despite the fact that you have never referenced an academic source in your life and have never understood one that has been highlighted to you.
It's very strange for a fully grown man to behave in such a way, but I suppose you get all sorts on the internet
I'm not really sure if you are an actual person anyway, I think you might be some kind of bot. A type of Turing test designed to trick people into thinking they are communicating with a real person.
None of your 'answers' ever relates to the post they are replying to, and you seem not to have the capability to comprehend anyone else's posts no matter how clearly and simply expressed. You simply pretend that they didn't answer your question and use more bold type.
There's this thing called a 'post-modern generator' - http://www.elsewhere.org/journal/pomo/
The Postmodernism Generator is a computer program that automatically produces imitations of postmodernist writing. It was written in 1996 by Andrew C. Bulhak of Monash University using the Dada Engine, a system for generating random text from recursive grammars.
I think you are actually an '@outhouse generator' where you randomly combine stock phrases like 'refusing academia', 'factually', 'WE demand HONESTY', 'You lack the education', 'FAIL', 'apologist', 'if you had the training that I do' and 'SIR you have no credibility' along with RANDOM capitalisation, BOLD TEXT, and superfluous PUNCTUATION!!!!!!!!!!!!! and a liberal sprinkling of
Congrats to your programmer, he/she did a pretty good job, was almost believable for a while
Regards
outhouse
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And you refuse to answer it in a straight forward manner. We do require honesty here.
WHO TAUGHT MYTHOLOGY TO MUHAMMAD ????????
outhouse
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you copy/pasted rhetoric that did not answer the question and stated it is a mystery.
outhouse
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To even begin to look into the origins of islam we have to study what we know.
What do we know?
We know biblical mythology written in Arabic is attributed to muhammad.
It is as fact as historical facts can be the koran plagiarized biblical traditions.
So who could have taught muhammad is as relevant as any question.
Who were the closest people to him that knew the bible well and wrote in Arabic?
We should assume he was illiterate and that he collected these traditions over his lifetime.
The trail we search begins with muhammad and goes back in time. Saying we don't know is worthless.
What do we know?
We know biblical mythology written in Arabic is attributed to muhammad.
It is as fact as historical facts can be the koran plagiarized biblical traditions.
So who could have taught muhammad is as relevant as any question.
Who were the closest people to him that knew the bible well and wrote in Arabic?
We should assume he was illiterate and that he collected these traditions over his lifetime.
The trail we search begins with muhammad and goes back in time. Saying we don't know is worthless.
outhouse
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copy and plagiarized are two different things
outhouse
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Worthless. That is not historical in any way.
outhouse
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You have no right or credibility to talk down to me.
It is a personal attack because your desperate and cannot answer simple questions without showing us the weakness of your arguments
outhouse
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use_your_brain
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outhouse
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That is not a credible historical position. It is a position of faith only.