No Chess in islam.

[Smart_Guy]

So how does Koran deal with these?

I absolutely have no idea

But if am to come up with something right now, I'd say I would only go with what seems real and gives the same effects of the real thing. I can't elaborate in my assumptions so I would not give a wrong answer.

 

[psychoslice]

You can not look to the Koran, and personal individual attitudes
Islam is the Koran and Mohammed

Yes I realize that, but you have to start somewhere.

 

[psychoslice]

Hatred of the teachings of the Koran
It is called descriptions inappropriate Jews ???
And he asked to fight the Jews and the Christians and the Pagans
It is the teachings of the Koran, my friend

Yes I have heard that before, but there is bad stuff in the old testement, but its not carried out or practised today.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

You mean the Jews that betrayed the Muslims three times, including the attempts to assassinate Muhammad, and that the Jews actually told Muhammad to follow their own Jewish rules at the time in delivering the sentence? Yes, I believe you mean them. And that was a specific case with those Jews, not with all Jews. That would never ever mean that Muhammad hated the Jews. It is common sense.

This does not justify the slaughter of Jews
It could be addressed through peaceful means best
But what justifies the Koranic verse that order you to fight the Jews and the Christians ???

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

If you want to know what are the arts that Islam prevents you going to Mecca
And you will know the truth of Islam
He wants wants the position of Islam upon review Fatawa
I am interested in them more than my interest in the position of a man who wants to conceal the fact that Islam
Because fatwas are representing Islam
I have made months fatwas that were issued in Saudi Arabia

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Fashion show of beautiful and modern arts
Is it possible to set up a fashion show in Saudi Arabia?
Why do women not be able to walk unveiled in Saudi Arabia ??

 

[Smart_Guy]

This does not justify the slaughter of Jews
It could be addressed through peaceful means best
But what justifies the Koranic verse that order you to fight the Jews and the Christians ???

But they broke a treaty they had with the Muslims and joined the enemy side to fight the Muslims, and they accepted their own law to be applied against them when they lost the war. That's after a series of betrayals they committed against the Muslims. If they were not executed, who knows what else they could have done more.

The Quran does not order to fight the Jews and Christians, otherwise it wouldn't have friendly verses like http://quran.com/29/46, advising verses like http://quran.com/3/99 or complimenting verses like http://quran.com/3/113 addressing the People of the Book.

Muslims did go thru peaceful means with the Jews before this but they Jews kept coming back until they reached the stage of betraying a treaty with Muslims and joining many enemy tribes to fight Muslims. Something had to be done to put a stop to it.

By Jews here, I don't generalize all Jews, I'm talking about the Jews who had conflicts with the Muslims only. And such conflict do not mean that Muslims and Jews are enemies.

 

[Smart_Guy]

If you want to know what are the arts that Islam prevents you going to Mecca
And you will know the truth of Islam
He wants wants the position of Islam upon review Fatawa
I am interested in them more than my interest in the position of a man who wants to conceal the fact that Islam
Because fatwas are representing Islam
I have made months fatwas that were issued in Saudi Arabia

Fashion show of beautiful and modern arts
Is it possible to set up a fashion show in Saudi Arabia?
Why do women not be able to walk unveiled in Saudi Arabia ??

You're mixing so many topics including ones we talked about before like mixing up Islam with Saudi Arabia. It is impossible to follow each point up like this. Address topics separately so we can have a good look at it instead of confusing me and everyone else here. You are always welcome to start new threads for those. But please make sure you don't break the rules doing so.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

But please make sure you don't break the rules doing so.

عرض الترجمة لـ انا قدمت لك سؤالا وهو لغرض اثبات ان الاسلام لا يؤمن في الفنون الجميلة كلها وهنا انا لم اخالف اي قاعدة انه حوار وقدمت لك سؤالا بسيطا وهو هل يمكن اقامة لعرض الازياء في مكة ؟؟ علما ان الازياء هي من الفنون الانسانية وايضا قدمت لك في الردود السابقة مواقف وفتاوى المدرسة السعودية وسائل الاثبات متعددة منها العقلية ومنها النصية انا استخدمت وسيلة الاثبات العقلية و
الترجمة بدلاً من ذلك من انا قدمت لك سؤالا وهو لغرض اثبات ان الاسلام لايؤمن في الفنون الجميلة كلها وهنا انا لم اخالف اي قاعدة انه حوار وقدمت لك سؤالا بسيطا وهو هل يمكن اقامة لعرض الازياء في مكة ؟؟ علما ان الازياء هي من الفنون الانسانية وايضا قدمت لك في الردود السابقة مواقف وفتاوى المدرسة السعودية وسائل الاثبات متعددة منها العقلية ومنها النصية انا استخدمت وسيلة الاثبات العقلية و
I made you question
It is for the purpose of proving that Islam does not believe in the whole of Fine Arts
Here I did not disagree with any base
He dialogue
It provided you a simple question
Which you can set up to show the fashion in Mecca ??
Note that fashion is one of humanity Arts
And also it has provided in the previous replies attitudes and opinions school Saudi Arabia
Means of proof, including multiple mental including scripts
I used a means of proof of mental
And

 

[Smart_Guy]

عرض الترجمة لـ انا قدمت لك سؤالا وهو لغرض اثبات ان الاسلام لا يؤمن في الفنون الجميلة كلها وهنا انا لم اخالف اي قاعدة انه حوار وقدمت لك سؤالا بسيطا وهو هل يمكن اقامة لعرض الازياء في مكة ؟؟ علما ان الازياء هي من الفنون الانسانية وايضا قدمت لك في الردود السابقة مواقف وفتاوى المدرسة السعودية وسائل الاثبات متعددة منها العقلية ومنها النصية انا استخدمت وسيلة الاثبات العقلية و
الترجمة بدلاً من ذلك من انا قدمت لك سؤالا وهو لغرض اثبات ان الاسلام لايؤمن في الفنون الجميلة كلها وهنا انا لم اخالف اي قاعدة انه حوار وقدمت لك سؤالا بسيطا وهو هل يمكن اقامة لعرض الازياء في مكة ؟؟ علما ان الازياء هي من الفنون الانسانية وايضا قدمت لك في الردود السابقة مواقف وفتاوى المدرسة السعودية وسائل الاثبات متعددة منها العقلية ومنها النصية انا استخدمت وسيلة الاثبات العقلية و
I made you question
It is for the purpose of proving that Islam does not believe in the whole of Fine Arts
Here I did not disagree with any base
He dialogue
It provided you a simple question
Which you can set up to show the fashion in Mecca ??
Note that fashion is one of humanity Arts
And also it has provided in the previous replies attitudes and opinions school Saudi Arabia
Means of proof, including multiple mental including scripts
I used a means of proof of mental
And

Dear Mahasn, I'm not accusing you of breaking the rules. I meant that when you speak in Arabic, please consider the rules too since it applies the same regardless to the language used.

I know that Islam does not allow all kinds of art. Stripteasing is an art and pornography is an arts. Islam does not allow those (are you fine with them?). All I'm saying is that Islam does not forbid all arts like you claimed here before:

It is that Islam prohibits all kinds of arts

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And no, basically fashion practices are not forbidden by themselves in Islam. For example, it is perfectly okay to do female fashion shows indoors only for women. Basically it is not the art itself that has rules, but the way it is practiced; e.g. a mixed fashion show with violation of Islamic dressing code.

Again, you're saying in Makkah, which is part of Saudi Arabia. Your talking country specific, not Islam.

Now that I answered your question, please answer mine: do you still say that all kinds of arts are prohibited in Islam?

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

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And no, basically fashion practices are not forbidden by themselves in Islam. For example, it is perfectly okay to do female fashion shows indoors only for women. Basically it is not the art itself that has rules, but the way it is practiced; e.g. a mixed fashion show with violation of Islamic dressing code.

Again, you're saying in Makkah, which is part of Saudi Arabia. Your talking country specific, not Islam.

Now that I answered your question, please answer mine: do you still say that all kinds of arts are prohibited in Islam?

The answer is not all the arts are forbidden in Islam.
The art of drawing the human form is forbidden in Islam.
Gunn sculpture is forbidden in Islam.
The art of photography is forbidden in Islam.
Equestrian Art permitted by Islam
Mixing between the sexes prevents him Islam is strictly prohibited
The art of fashion prevents Islam
Showing any part of the female is forbidden in Islam.
The art of make-up is forbidden in Islam.
If you want to talk about other arts should be measured by theAnd now I ask the following question
Are you able to hang a picture Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques in Mecca
As did the late President Saddam Hussein when he was hanging pictures in all corners of Iraq, and I comment image in my house and so far kept wonderfully him

 

[Smart_Guy]

The answer is not all the arts are forbidden in Islam.

Good. This is the only thing I was talking about and you kept opening cans of worms for irrelevant side talks.

Everything else in your post is irrelevant. You can start other thread about it instead of derailing this one further. The word "derail" in this context means taking the discussion out of topic.

Note: "open a can of worm" is an expression that means starting unneeded discussions, including irrelevant. It does not mean having a can that has worms in it and you open it. The word "can" here does not mean to be able to do, it means a closed metal cylinder like the ones use to pack tuna.