Mat-Su bans transgender students from bathrooms that match their gender identity

[Wildswanderer]

In all my time using public restrooms, never once have I ever even seen anyone's genitals. Not ever.
I bet you don't even realize that people have been using the washroom of their choice during the entire time you've been alive, and probably at least once, you have shared a bathroom with a transgendered person and didn't even know it.

This is made up culture war nonsense. Stop picking on people with no power. Stop being obsessed with other peoples' genitals.

In the boys shower room at school I'm sure a person with a female body would not cause any commotion at all.
I'm sure you're absolutely right and it doesn't matter at all if naked men walk around in the lady's shower at school either.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Some people who may spy on others illegally is not something that directly relates to transgender.

What an absurd statement. If it's the transgender rules that allow them to be there it's related.

 

[fantome profane]

What an absurd statement. If it's the transgender rules that allow them to be there it's related.

Whether you have a penis, or don't have a penis, you are still required to behave yourself in the bathroom. Too many people really seen to believe that having a penis is a permit to harass women. If you believe that then I can understand why this issue upsets you.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Whether you have a penis, or don't have a penis, you are still required to behave yourself in the bathroom. Too many people really seen to believe that having a penis is a permit to harass women. If you believe that then I can understand why this issue upsets you.

Why do you have to stoop to insults to have this discussion?

 

[Wildswanderer]

Whether you have a penis, or don't have a penis, you are still required to behave yourself in the bathroom. Too many people really seen to believe that having a penis is a permit to harass women. If you believe that then I can understand why this issue upsets you.

A woman should be rightly afraid if a large male walks into the women's bathroom.... she has no idea what his intentions are and no defense if they are not honorable.

 

[SkepticThinker]

In the boys shower room at school I'm sure a person with a female body would not cause any commotion at all.
I'm sure you're absolutely right and it doesn't matter at all if naked men walk around in the lady's shower at school either.

Maybe for once, try considering what I said, thinking about it, and providing a response that addresses what I said.
TIA.

 

[fantome profane]

Why do you have to stoop to insults to have this discussion?

I don't see an insult in that post. I certainly didn't intend one. My policy is to let the mods decide these issues, that is what they are there for.

 

[fantome profane]

A woman should be rightly afraid if a large male walks into the women's bathroom.... she has no idea what his intentions are and no defense if they are not honorable.

So what you are saying is that this is about the size of the individual, not the presence or absence of a penis.

 

[Wildswanderer]

So what you are saying is that this is about the size of the individual, not the presence or absence of a penis.

Males are inherently stronger than women in most cases...so being a male does matter.

 

[fantome profane]

Males are inherently stronger than women in most cases...so being a male does matter.

And transgender males are also stronger than women in most cases. They can certainly be large, hairy, muscular men. Which bathroom should transgender men use?

By your reasoning transgender men should use the men's room. I agree.

Transgender women tend to be smaller and weaker physically than either cis males or transgender men. It seems logical therefor they should use the woman's room.

 

[Wildswanderer]

And transgender males are also stronger than women in most cases. They can certainly be large, hairy, muscular men. Which bathroom should transgender men use?

By your reasoning transgender men should use the men's room. I agree.

Transgender women tend to be smaller and weaker physically than either cis males or transgender men. It seems logical therefor they should use the woman's room.

A so called transgender male is a male.
A so called transgender female is still a female.

So there's no reason to ever have a male in the ladies room and vice versa.

 

[fantome profane]

A so called transgender male is a male.
A so called transgender female is still a female.

So there's no reason to ever have a male in the ladies room and vice versa.

I don't think you understood what you just said.

But I completely agree. I could not have said it better myself.

A transgender man is a man.
A transgender woman is a woman.

And they should be treated with respect like any other man or woman.

 

[We Never Know]

A so called transgender male is a male.
A so called transgender female is still a female.

So there's no reason to ever have a male in the ladies room and vice versa.

"A so called transgender male is a male.
A so called transgender female is still a female."

Do you even understand that a transgender male was born female and a transgender female was born male?

 

[Wildswanderer]

"A so called transgender male is a male.
A so called transgender female is still a female."

Do you even understand that a transgender male was born female and a transgender female was born male?

They are still what they were born as.

 

[fantome profane]

They are still what they were born as.

Babies?

 

[Wildswanderer]

Babies?

Sigh.
Males have male chromosomes at birth, and can never be female, and vice versa.

 

[fantome profane]

Sigh.
Males have male chromosomes at birth, and can never be female, and vice versa.

And when you see someone in the bathroom, how do you know what their chromosomes are? Have you ever even seen a chromosome?

 

[metis]

What an absurd statement. If it's the transgender rules that allow them to be there it's related.

You really don't get it as @fantome profane well stated.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Males are inherently stronger than women in most cases...so being a male does matter.

There are a lot of women that are a lot stronger than I am. What's to stop one of them from attacking me in the bathroom?

 

[Wildswanderer]

There are a lot of women that are a lot stronger than I am. What's to stop one of them from attacking me in the bathroom?

Real men that will save you.