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Making a blood pact with the gods.

Princeps Eugenius

Active Member
Anyone else made a blood pact with the gods as to live a righteous and balanced life? Im sure i am not the only one who cut his hand for this.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
I've not cut my hand, nor will I in the foreseeable future.

I'm not against the practice, mind, but in the overculture I've been raised in, cutting oneself has always been associated with depression, self-loating, suicidal ideation, etc. I have experience with friends who are/have been this type of "cutter". As a result, my loved ones would only be able to regard such an action in this context, and I'm willing to bet that no amount of explaining could convince them. The pain it would cause them would be greater than the pain my hand would have, and they've done nothing to me to deserve such pain.

Besides, I'm already an Oathbreaker. Back when I practiced Śaiva Hinduism, I once made an oath (not in blood) in the sight of Gods that I'd never watch porn again. That lasted all of a year before being broken, and I've never renewed the oath since I now regard it as a foolish endeavor in the first place. But foolish or not, I made an oath in the sight of Gods and broke it, so I doubt a blood oath from me would mean much at this point.

...and yes, I'm also very much a coward when it comes to physical pain, so I doubt I'd even be able to control my body. I've never made any pretentions about ever seeing the gates of Wælhall.
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
Have you cut your hand, in a ceremony, and shed blood also?
Jawohl. Left hand with an obsidian blade. But not for something as subjective as "righteous living". I'm going to live as I deign to live.

I've not cut my hand, nor will I in the foreseeable future.

I'm not against the practice, mind, but in the overculture I've been raised in, cutting oneself has always been associated with depression, self-loating, suicidal ideation, etc. I have experience with friends who are/have been this type of "cutter". As a result, my loved ones would only be able to regard such an action in this context, and I'm willing to bet that no amount of explaining could convince them. The pain it would cause them would be greater than the pain my hand would have, and they've done nothing to me to deserve such pain.

Besides, I'm already an Oathbreaker. Back when I practiced Śaiva Hinduism, I once made an oath (not in blood) in the sight of Gods that I'd never watch porn again. That lasted all of a year before being broken, and I've never renewed the oath since I now regard it as a foolish endeavor in the first place. But foolish or not, I made an oath in the sight of Gods and broke it, so I doubt a blood oath from me would mean much at this point.

...and yes, I'm also very much a coward when it comes to physical pain, so I doubt I'd even be able to control my body. I've never made any pretentions about ever seeing the gates of Wælhall.
See, this is why you don't ever promise something you know you can't follow through on. As far as pain goes, meh. It's a cut. If anything it's a welcome distraction from the pain in my spine and my leg.

Anyone wanting to do this; don't be stupid. Use a clean blade, preferably one you've dipped into alcohol, and then properly cleaning the cut.
 

Princeps Eugenius

Active Member
Jawohl. Left hand with an obsidian blade. But not for something as subjective as "righteous living". I'm going to live as I deign to live.


See, this is why you don't ever promise something you know you can't follow through on. As far as pain goes, meh. It's a cut. If anything it's a welcome distraction from the pain in my spine and my leg.

Anyone wanting to do this; don't be stupid. Use a clean blade, preferably one you've dipped into alcohol, and then properly cleaning the cut.
I cut my right hand, really widely and badly, with a hunting knife and swore an oath of living a good life (according to my will) to the ancient gods. i havent lived up to the oath though. i was doing everything necessary but then something hit me and i was unable to perform the obligations to the gods and was bed-ridden for 2 years (still counting) and want to take it up again. the cut left a great mark for a couple of months.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
See, this is why you don't ever promise something you know you can't follow through on.

Yup. I've been careful about that ever since.

As far as pain goes, meh. It's a cut. If anything it's a welcome distraction from the pain in my spine and my leg.

Heh. I can understand that. I don't think it actually would hurt that much; the idea of pain is worse than the pain itself, as I've come to learn. Maybe someday I'll be desensitized enough to not be afraid of pain anymore; I'm certainly not as afraid of pain as I was as a child.

Anyone wanting to do this; don't be stupid. Use a clean blade, preferably one you've dipped into alcohol, and then properly cleaning the cut.

Quoting this, too, just to make sure it appears twice. DON'T FOLLOW HOLLYWOOD! It happens a few times in movies, though the time I can recall at the moment is in the Kevin Kostner Robin Hood movie, where he just took out his pocket knife and cut his hand then and there. I'd think that ESPECIALY someone living back then would know to disinfect the blade first; I'm no medical expert, but I'm pretty sure he just doomed his hand to needing amputation.
 

Princeps Eugenius

Active Member
What do you mean by "blood pact" exactly?
Blood pact, as in shading your blood on a written paper, where the contract was written. However silly that might sound to you, ive actually took an empty paper, cut my right hand badly as to have the blood spilled over the paper, where the contract stood written in ink, and burned the bloodied paper over a fire.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Blood pact, as in shading your blood on a written paper, where the contract was written. However silly that might sound to you, ive actually took an empty paper, cut my right hand badly as to have the blood spilled over the paper, where the contract stood written in ink, and burned the bloodied paper over a fire.

It doesn't sound silly at all. I just wanted clarification before I answered the question. I have used blood in rituals and spells, but not in that particular fashion.
 

Sees

Dragonslayer
I've done something similar to Gods and Ancestors...also some blood-brother pact type of stuff in the military.
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
Quoting this, too, just to make sure it appears twice. DON'T FOLLOW HOLLYWOOD! It happens a few times in movies, though the time I can recall at the moment is in the Kevin Kostner Robin Hood movie, where he just took out his pocket knife and cut his hand then and there. I'd think that ESPECIALY someone living back then would know to disinfect the blade first; I'm no medical expert, but I'm pretty sure he just doomed his hand to needing amputation.
The notion of infection is relatively new, actually. Surgeons & doctors back then had no problem going from person to person amongst the sick, wounded & dying. The idea to sterilize or disinfect only really came around in the mid 1800s. The closest you'd get, if you were lucky, would be a doctor who rinsed his hands and maybe even kept a fire going to heat his instruments between being elbow-deep in human fluids & gore. It was very hard for people to grasp the idea that small, invisible to the eye 'creatures' were responsible for rot & such. They largely saw wound infestation and other such things as merely how it's supposed to be. It wasn't the exception, but the rule. Things began to change rapidly on that front as we got microscopes powerful enough to see on that level.

...Minor history lesson, just thought I'd put this out there.
 

Princeps Eugenius

Active Member
The notion of infection is relatively new, actually. Surgeons & doctors back then had no problem going from person to person amongst the sick, wounded & dying. The idea to sterilize or disinfect only really came around in the mid 1800s. The closest you'd get, if you were lucky, would be a doctor who rinsed his hands and maybe even kept a fire going to heat his instruments between being elbow-deep in human fluids & gore. It was very hard for people to grasp the idea that small, invisible to the eye 'creatures' were responsible for rot & such. They largely saw wound infestation and other such things as merely how it's supposed to be. It wasn't the exception, but the rule. Things began to change rapidly on that front as we got microscopes powerful enough to see on that level.

...Minor history lesson, just thought I'd put this out there.
She actually replied to the thread and deleted it? well. yeah my notion was not based on hollywood stuff but on some inner demons trying to force me to do this sacrifice. i did it and actually lived according to the pact for half a year and suffered very badly for 2 years after it(still going on.).
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
The notion of infection is relatively new, actually. Surgeons & doctors back then had no problem going from person to person amongst the sick, wounded & dying. The idea to sterilize or disinfect only really came around in the mid 1800s. The closest you'd get, if you were lucky, would be a doctor who rinsed his hands and maybe even kept a fire going to heat his instruments between being elbow-deep in human fluids & gore. It was very hard for people to grasp the idea that small, invisible to the eye 'creatures' were responsible for rot & such. They largely saw wound infestation and other such things as merely how it's supposed to be. It wasn't the exception, but the rule. Things began to change rapidly on that front as we got microscopes powerful enough to see on that level.

...Minor history lesson, just thought I'd put this out there.

No prob. Totally okay with being corrected. :)

I'm still sure they knew the dangers of making such cuts, though. But maybe that's what gives such oaths their power: the conviction is so great that a person is willing to risk such an ordeal in order to make that point.
 

Aštra’el

Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
Actually a blood pact was what began my entire pagan revolution, even though I didn't realize it at the time.
 
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