Livestock

[Fool]

Livestock are the only animals in general, other than zoo animals, that aren't usually allowed to manage their own reproduction.

Are female humans livestock? Should a few humans be managing the majority of humans reproduction health?

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/abortion-roe-v-wade-pregnancy-biology-supreme-court-ruling

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

No.

 

[ChristineM]

Are female humans livestock?

No. Those days of ownership of the female and female subservience to the man are long gone

But it seems to me that some far right religionists are trying to make it so again

 

[1213]

Should a few humans be managing the majority of humans reproduction health?

No, I think all people should be free individuals, without any earthly governments ruling others. This means also that women should not have right to kill their babies, because baby's body is not really theirs.

 

[Fool]

No, I think all people should be free individuals, without any earthly governments ruling others. This means also that women should not have right to kill their babies, because baby's body is not really theirs.

A foetus body is built from the building blocks of the body it gets its materials from. The Bible doesn't recognize it as a son of man = son of adam until it takes the breath of life

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Livestock are the only animals in general, other than zoo animals, that aren't usually allowed to manage their own reproduction.

Are female humans livestock? Should a few humans be managing the majority of humans reproduction health?

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/abortion-roe-v-wade-pregnancy-biology-supreme-court-ruling

Pets as well.

Humans can communicate with each other their needs and wants. A woman, being a human animal (as are men), can communicate their needs and wants concerning reproduction.

The fact that we treat living things in general as commodities and not individual beings with feelings is pretty disturbing. That we do it to our own species that we can communicate with is even worse.

 

[ChristineM]

No, I think all people should be free individuals, without any earthly governments ruling others. This means also that women should not have right to kill their babies, because baby's body is not really theirs.

It also means that any woman is free to abort the fetus

The fetus is built from bits of the mother.

 

[1213]

It also means that any woman is free to abort the fetus

The fetus is built from bits of the mother.

I don't think woman has right to kill babies, even if they would be made from bits of them. With that logic, your mom could as well abort you now.

 

[1213]

A foetus....... The Bible doesn't recognize it as a son of man = son of adam until it takes the breath of life

Sorry, I think that is an evil lie and can't be supported with the Bible.

 

[Fool]

Sorry, I think that is an evil lie and can't be supported with the Bible.

that is how god created adam. he created the body from the earth and when god breathed into the body, adam became a human. that's how the name gets it's origin. might want to rethink your premise. adam is is the prototype of humans.


H120 - 'āḏām - Strong's Hebrew Lexicon (kjv)

 

[ChristineM]

I don't think woman has right to kill babies, even if they would be made from bits of them. With that logic, your mom could as well abort you now.

A fetus is not a baby, its no good crying out emotional pleading just because you don't agree with abortion. Do you have any real objections based on biology or the law?

 

[1213]

A fetus is not a baby..

Why?

 

[ChristineM]

Why?

Because it is either an ambryo or a fetus, it becomes a baby at birth, when it becomes independent of its host (mother)

We are of course talking biologically, medically and legally. Religion seems to have its own guidelines.

 

[1213]

Because it is either an ambryo or a fetus, it becomes a baby at birth, when it becomes independent of its host (mother)...

If this is scientific really, what is the difference between a fetus and a baby? Why is that enough reason to kill the other?

 

[ChristineM]

If this is scientific really, what is the difference between a fetus and a baby? Why is that enough reason to kill the other?

Sheesh, the difference is one is dependent on the mother for everything, one is not.

 

[1213]

Sheesh, the difference is one is dependent on the mother for everything, one is not.

Born babies are also dependent of their mothers. That is no meaningful difference.

 

[ChristineM]

Born babies are also dependent of their mothers. That is no meaningful difference.

Born babies are dependant, not necessarily on their mothers.

 

[1213]

Born babies are dependant, not necessarily on their mothers.

Same is with unborn babies, often they are dependent from other people to protect them from the people who like to kill babies.

 

[ChristineM]

Same is with unborn babies, often they are dependent from other people to protect them from the people who like to kill babies.

Not unborn babies, your emotional pleas are just that emotional pleas. If unborn it is either an embryo or a fetus.

And not the same thing al all. The embryo/fetus is essentially a parasite living of it's mother until born and it then becomes a baby with the rights of a human being

You have no right to interfere in another persons will. None.

 

[1213]

...The embryo/fetus is essentially a parasite living of it's mother until born and it then becomes a baby with the rights of a human being...

You could as well dehumanize all who live in their parents houses.