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Discussion in 'Scriptural Debates' started by OtherSheep, Sep 24, 2018.

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  1. 2ndpillar

    2ndpillar Well-Known Member

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    Zechariah 12:2-3,"I am going to make Jerusalem a cup that causes reeling to all the peoples around; and when the siege is against Jerusalem, it will also be against Judah. And it will come about in that day that I will make Jerusalem a heavy stone for all the people; all who lift it will be severely injured. And all the nations of the earth will be gathered against it"
     
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    Psalms 83 = 2 Chronicles 20. If it isn't completely fulfilled yet, then it won't be until the two separated nations become one again.

    You have no right to the name of Israel unless you belong to the 10-lost-tribes.
    The Divided Kingdom is not healed, period.
    Israel is the 10-northern-tribes.
    Judah, aka Judaea, is the 3 remaining tribes.
    If what calls itself Israel today had been honest, she'd have taken back the name Judaea, after she forced England to give her the land which England had already promised via Lawrence of Arabia. If the Arabians never drove out the Ottomans, "Israel" would still be waiting to be born.

    If Judah is feeding itself, why does she take welfare money from America?
     
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    QUOTE="2ndpillar, post: 5795820, member: 51388"]
    Zechariah 12:2-3,"I am going to make Jerusalem a cup that causes reeling to all the peoples around; and when the siege is against Jerusalem, it will also be against Judah. And it will come about in that day that I will make Jerusalem a heavy stone for all the people; all who lift it will be severely injured. And all the nations of the earth will be gathered against it"[/QUOTE
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    Rev.14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
    17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great wonder.

    Rev.2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. 2:22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

    By the wording of that Revelation verse, Jezebel never belonged to the church, she was a mole. She brought in the Babylonian mysteries and magicians that the church never owned.
    The Pharisees brought the Zohar and Kabiri into Jerusalem.
    And Paul took it from there, to poison the Gentiles.

    Jerusalem is spoken of in that very same way as Jesus does of Jezebel.
    And when Jezebel was tossed onto that bed, the whole world became drunk on her fornication.
    Two plus two equal four: Jezebel is Jerusalem and Jerusalem is Babylon.

    Rev.17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the harlot, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

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    According to your Zechariah verse, in context, Judah will wake up when she sees herself surrounded by the enemies she herself has created.

    Jeremiah 51:6 "Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity; for this [is] the time of the LORD'S vengeance; he will render unto her a recompence. 7 Babylon [hath been] a golden cup in the LORD'S hand, that made all the earth drunken: the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the nations are mad. 8 Babylon is suddenly fallen and destroyed: howl for her; take balm for her pain, if so be she may be healed. 9 We would have healed Babylon, but she is not healed: forsake her, and let us go every one into his own country: for her judgment reacheth unto heaven, and is lifted up [even] to the skies."

    Matthew 23:37 "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, [thou] that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under [her] wings, and ye would not!"
     
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    Your point is? Everything starts with Jerusalem (Zechariah 14), and Jerusalem will be "captured", and the "women ravished", but then "the LORD will go forth to fight", and the nations "I will destroy completely" (Jeremiah 30:11), yet "Jacob" will be "saved from it" (Jeremiah 30:7), and will be "chastened justly" (Jeremiah 30:11).
     
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    You might want to reread your history. It was the British and their ANZAC troops which routed the Ottomans and the Germans at Meggido. Lawrence and his Arabians, cut supply lines and caused the Ottomans to divert troops.

    The British wrote the Balfour Declaration, which opened up Judea to the Jews, in appreciation of the Zionist giving them the formula for cheap explosives, needed to win the war.

    Those who bless Israel are blessed and those who curse Jacob are cursed (Numbers 24:9). The Americans are simply trying to get blessed by giving to Israel. As for food, the Israelis have turned their deserts into gardens.

    New Living Translation Numbers 24:9
    Like a lion, Israel crouches and lies down; like a lioness, who dares to arouse her? Blessed is everyone who blesses you, O Israel, and cursed is everyone who curses you."

    If you have noticed, the Iranians are cursed, the Syrians are cursed, etc.
     
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    QUOTE="OtherSheep, post: 5796706, member: 64612"]
    If Judah is feeding itself, why does she take welfare money from America?[/QUOTE

    American dollars aren't needed, since ZionistaPublican IS the bank.
    The clock has been stricking 13, for 70 years... 1984 is almost over.

    QUOTE="OtherSheep, post: 5796718, member: 64612"]
    Rev.2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. 2:22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
    Jezebel is Jerusalem and Jerusalem is Babylon.
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    Yes, everything starts with Jerusalem.
    And as Churchill pointed out, the end is also due to her.
    In her is found the blood of the 2 Witnesses.

    QUOTE="2ndpillar, post: 5797184, member: 51388"]
    The British wrote the Balfour Declaration,
    which opened up Judea to the Jews,
    in appreciation of the Zionist giving them the formula for cheap explosives, needed to win the war.
    The Americans are simply trying to get blessed by giving to Israel.
    As for food, the Israelis have turned their deserts into gardens.
    QUOTE="2ndpillar, post: 5798229, member: 51388"]
    The Balfour Declaration wasn't written by the British people, it was written Arthur Balfour (foreign Secretary) to Lord Rothschild, in appreciation of Rothchild purchasing and then donating a new inexpensive formula for gun powder to the British war effort.
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    Balfour Declaration wasn't written by British people, and that isn't why it was written.
    “nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine." "A Jewish Defector Warns America"
    "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws", Rothschild.
    Obviously, the last half of that statement is nonsense... Disraeli's Coningsby.


    The so-called nation without a people was already peacefully inhabited when
    ZionistaPublicans genocided villages and hung British soldiers.

    Deir Yassin: The Massacre that Sparked the Nakba
    "April 9 marked the 70th anniversary of the Deir Yassin massacre, in which Jewish militias murdered over 100 Palestinian men, women and children as part of a self-described “cleansing” campaign to expel indigenous Arabs to make way for the nascent Jewish state of Israel."

    "It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen."--Orwell, 1984


    And Britain didn't reward a British soldier... TPTB caved to ZionistasPublican.
    "But the part that Major Herbert Garland, a British scientist turned soldier, played in the First World War has largely been ignored, airbrushed from history in the wake of his more famous brother-in-arms."
    Garland of Arabia: the forgotten story of TE Lawrence's brother-in-arms


    Trying to get blessed by a nation pretending to be Israel: highly detrimental to European-Americans.
    When America wakes up, the feeding will be over. No milk and honey will come from store-bought-irrigation any more. The water that flows from the Euphrates, will dry up when the 2 Witnesses will pray for the draught.

    Revelation 13:3 "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast." {what's the symbol of Zionism?}

    QUOTE="2ndpillar, post: 5798229, member: 51388"]
    As you seem in the mood to
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    rebuke Judah.
    Revelation 3:19 "As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent."

    Isaiah 30:9 "That this [is] a rebellious people, lying children, children [that] will not hear the law of the LORD: 10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits: 11 Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us."

    Those who stole her name from her are cursing Israel into non-existence.
    The 10-tribes are only lost because people don't literally believe Jesus.
    He came only unto the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel, Matthew 15.
    Only His sheep hear only His voice, John 10.

    QUOTE="2ndpillar, post: 5798229, member: 51388"]
    As England was a part of the Roman empire/iron, she will not escape justice,
    and as of today, a Muslim rules her capital city.
    A perfect example of a curse of
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    not God.
    Those who pushed fake-Syrians into Europe, to rape and steal and murder.
    And tried to rip the guns from the hands of Americans, after false-flag Newtown.

    Jewish Groups Lead Push To Crack Open Doors to Syria Refugees
    After Newtown, Jews Lead Renewed Push on Guns

    Isaiah 6:9 "Ye shall hear indeed, but ye shall not understand; and ye shall see indeed, but ye shall not perceive. 10 For the heart of this people has become gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.
    11 And I said, How long, O Lord? And He said, "Until cities be deserted by reason of their not being inhabited, and the houses by reason of there being no men, and the land shall be left desolate. 12 And after this God shall remove the men far off, and they that are left upon the land shall be multiplied. 13 And yet there shall be a tenth upon it, and again it shall be for a spoil, as a turpentine tree, and as an acorn when it falls out of its husk."

    Isaiah 28:14 "Therefore hear ye the word of the Lord, ye afflicted men, and ye princes of this people that is in Jerusalem. 15 Because ye have said, "We have made a covenant with Hades, and agreements with Sheol; if the overflowing scourge should pass, it shall not come upon us: we have made falsehood our hope, and by falsehood shall we be protected:
    16 Therefore thus saith the Lord, even the Lord, Behold, I lay for the foundations of Sion a costly stone, a choice, a corner-stone, a precious stone, for its foundations; and he that believes on Him shall by no means be ashamed.
    17 And I will cause judgment to be for hope, and My compassion shall be for just measures, and ye that trust vainly in falsehood shall fall: for the storm shall by no means pass by you, 18 except it also take away your covenant of Sheol, and your trust in Hades shall by no means stand: if the overflowing scourge should come upon you, ye shall be beaten down by it. 19 Whenever it shall pass by, it shall take you; morning by morning it shall pass by in the day, and in the night there shall be an evil hope.
    Learn to hear, 20 ye that are distressed; we cannot fight, but we are ourselves too weak for you to be gathered. 21 The Lord shall rise up as a mountain of ungodly men, and shall be in the valley of Gabaon; He shall perform His works with wrath, even a work of bitterness, and His wrath shall deal strangely, and His destruction shall be strange. 22 Therefore do not ye rejoice, neither let your bands be made strong; for I have heard of works finished and cut short by the Lord of hosts, which He will execute upon all the earth."

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    You seem to be a hater of the chosen people, who God will forgive for his namesake (Ezekiel 36:22), and Judah and Israel will be reunited on the "land I gave to Jacob" (Ezkiel 37:25), and they will "no longer be two nations", and "I" "will cleanse them" (Ezekiel 37:23).

    As for the head of the beast who was healed, that would be Julius Caesar, the 5th head of the beast, who was healed as Augustus Caesars with the same authority given by the dragon. Julius is the head that was and is not (Revelation 17:8) during the period of the 6th head of the beast. All the 10 heads of the 8th head of the beast, like you, will hate the "harlot", which is Judah, the Jews, and persecute her and make her "desolate" (Revelation 17:16). We are now in the "end time" of Daniel 12:7-10, whereas the only ones without "understanding" are the "wicked".

    The Balfour Declaration wasn't written by the British people, it was written Arthur Balfour (foreign Secretary) to Lord Rothschild, in appreciation of Rothchild purchasing and then donating a new inexpensive formula for gun powder to the British war effort.

    As you seem in the mood to curse Israel, I would image that would be the reason for your perceived general lack of understanding and perceived foul mood. Your perceived blessings to Edom, Ishmael, etc., would follow suit. As for the nations that Israel were scattered too, "I will destroy completely" (Jeremiah 30:11) & (Daniel 2:35). If you would turn to Zechariah 12, you would find out how and who crushed the nations "around" "Jerusalem" (Daniel 2:34). This was with God's help (Zechariah 12:2-6). "In that day I will make the clans of Judah like a firepot among pieces of wood" (Zechariah 12:6). As England was a part of the Roman empire/iron, she will not escape justice, and as of today, a Muslim rules her capital city. A perfect example of a curse of God. On the other hand, the ANZAC nations, such as Australia, were never part of the Roman empire, and therefore were used to crush Edom (the Ottomans), and the Germans in WWI at Meggiddo.
     
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    Most of my reply to this quoted-below post have been edited into the post 2ndpillar quoted.

    The below required a separate response... which is in fact the heart of the matter.
    Definitions seem to be fast and loose, these days.

    :eek: People who feel free to slaughter Palestinians... call other people haters. :rolleyes:


    People who truly hate Israel stole her name and cursed her into oblivion.
    The 10-tribes are only lost because people don't literally believe Jesus.
    He came only unto the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel, Matthew 15.
    Only His sheep hear only His voice, John 10.
    10-Israel is scattered among the nations, both interbred and unrecognized.
    10-Israel ethnos has been erased by the people who say she is "dead to us."
    Truth doesn't need laws to protect it, but lies sure do.

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    Bless-the-10-Lost-Tribes-of-Israel
     
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    The 2 witnesses, who both had the power to stop the rain for 42 months, Elijah (John the Baptist), and Yeshua were both killed in Jerusalem under the rule of the 2nd horn of the 6th head of the beast, Augustus Tiberius Caesar. And the Euphrates already is damned and can be cut off by a turn of a switch, as shown by ISIS when the dams were under their control. As for irrigation in Israel, is was from the Jordan river, and sub surface water and from squeezing water from stone, and ancient technique of using rocks and condensation.
     
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    Zionism is the name of blasphemy.
    ISIS is your covenant with Hades.
     
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    I think the aim of ISIS is a caliphate, which historically took land from the people living in Judea. It is also has a goal to destroy Israel. That idea will not be successful (Zechariah 12 & 14). The best they can do is "capture" "Jerusalem" until the "LORD go forth to fight" (Zechariah 14:1-3).

    The covenant with Sheol (Isaiah 28:18) is covenant with death, for which the believers think they will not die. That covenant will be "cancelled" . That would be the covenant of grace, where the "many" think they will be changed from corruptible to incorruptible in a twinkling of and eye. ISIS isn't involved except to kill people, they are looking for death and their 72 virgins.
     
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    Your unholy Zionism did that... and still is... with no complaint issuing from you.
    Can you honestly condemn that which your Zionistic-faith promotes?
    Notice the Zionist blasphemy of Egyptian star-worship... yet?

    ISIS is just one spear which currently is aiming at the entire world outside of your unholy Zionism blasphemy. The other spears are the 9 other nations. Here's the deal: Zionism has made America, Britain, France, Russia, Spain, Hungary... and every other land she has taken over during her "World Revolution" into the names of blasphemy written on the heads of the harlot. That harlot is Zionism, and that name is blasphemy because Zion is like unto holy Jerusalem... which can certainly not be said for any part of the kingdom of the international communistic beast.

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    Suggestions on the Ancient Britons in Three Parts : George Duckett Barber Beaumont : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
     
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