Ishvara and mAyA

[Aupmanyav]

This can never be possible,maya cannot merge with brahman,when given that maya is unreal and avachya.

Maya is the effect of existence of Brahman, light light is the effect of existence of a burning candle. No Brahman, no maya. Brahman, then maya necessarily. Existence of Radha is con-commitant to the existence of Krishna.

 

[bhootarajaru]

Maya is the effect of existence of Brahman, light light is the effect of existence of a burning candle. No Brahman, no maya. Brahman, then maya necessarily. Existence of Radha is con-commitant to the existence of Krishna.

Then you are accepting that brahman has attributes!!!!

 

[atanu]

Maya cannot be the effect of ignorance.Because,the effect of ignorance cannot be present without the actual ignorance in the ignorant.If you conclude maya as the effect of ignorance,then where is this ignorance present??

What is the reason for this ignorance???Is it previous ignorance ???

If we have it in your way then there would be infinite cycles of ignorances!!!!!

You conclude that maya is the effect of ignorance.My question is how do you account for the origin of this ignorance by which maya exists???

Is it other ignorance????

Other possible question would be. In whom does this ignorance exist???
Brahaman!!!!!!This must be the answer,since there are no two beings in advaita..

If you accept that brahman has ignorance then all the efforts of vedas upanishads and everything would be futile since,everthing is declaring the glorious characters of the supreme!!!!

Then pray tell me. Answer your own questions.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Then you are accepting that brahman has attributes!!!!

Is not Brahman all-pervading? That is an attribute.

 

[Stormcry]

Is not Brahman all-pervading? That is an attribute.

No it's not attribute. In real sense, Veda doesn't apply this attribute to Brahman. It just uses logical attributes (like omnipresent, omniscience) which are in the scope of Maya itself, to remove false attributes imposed on the Brahman. It's just like removing maya by maya itself. The teaching of Brahman's omnipresent nature is only for those dull witted who think Brahman has limits or who can't imagine the thing beyond form or those who think this world separate from Brahman. Where's all-pervading nature in Brahman which is itself source of omnipresent nature and in which mind, thoughts and concepts don't reside. Even there's not feeling of I'm Brahman...so no doubt In brahman, there's not feeling of I'm all pervading. So Omnipresent nature is not the true nature of brahman. In short, who can describe Brahman which is beyond the mind itself. The meaning of Brahman's all-pervading is none other than this world is Brahman. But it should be noted veda doesn't apply this attribue as the final and true nature of Brahman.